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Lasten trekken met je W201

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Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 19 aug 2010, 12:22

Omdat ik voor mezelf wat aan het zoeken was over het trekken van een lichtgewicht caravan met m'n 2.0 dieseltje, en hier op het forum overal wat verdwaalde resultaten tegenkwam, leek het mij een goed idee om hier alle ervaringen te verzamelen.

Dus, iemand ervaringen met het caravan trekken met een W201? motor maakt niet uit.

En niet allleen een caravan, alles wat je getrokken hebt kun je hier neerzetten!

- Caravan
- trailers/aanhangwagens (1 of 2 assen)
- paardentrailers
- vouwwagens.

etcetc.!

Zelf heb ik er uiteraard al wat ervaringen mee opgedaan, maar deze waren neit echt voor de openbare weg bestemd, zoals dit:

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of

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Een dikke twee asser helemaal volgestampt met zand. En met zand verkijk je je snel met gewicht. De kofferbak vol met zware grindtegels. Ok, dit hebben we wel bewust gedaan.
Mocht je dit soort klussen vaak doen, ik kon niet harder dan 40 want dan ging ik alle kanten op ;) Levensgevaarlijk dus!

Ook heb ik eens een autoambulance getrokken, deze woog iets meer dan 800 kilo, behalve dat ik geen stoplichtsprints kon trekken, was het toch nog aardig te doen, mits volgens snelheid.

Ow en voordat ik commentaar krijg ;) Ik ben inderdaad op zoek naar ervaringen met een sleurhutje :oops: Wil ooit nog eens met de Benz door spanje/portugal gaan trekken en dan is advies van andere Mercedes-benz rijders goud waard ;)

Ik vraag mede advies, omda tik me dooderger aan die lui die 75 rijden en bergop de grootste last zijn. dat de auto meer gaat gebruiken intreseert me geen reet, zolang ik maar goed 90 kan rijden met een vrij ontspannen gevoel ;)
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Benz » 19 aug 2010, 12:26

Ik heb al een paar keer de fietsendrager op mijn trekhaak gehad maar dat weegt niks.
En 1x een karretje getrokken met de W201 en dat ging prima, maar die was niet zwaar beladen.
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 19 aug 2010, 12:44

Een fietsendrage heb ik ook erop gehad, hier reed ik gewoon 160km/h mee :blink: ongekend :D en mn vriendin reed voor mij, die haalde ik toen in terwijl hun rechts reden met een trailer achter hjun auto. schoonpa stik over de zeik etc. :D kolere wat was ik snel thuis :twisted:
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Benz » 19 aug 2010, 15:47

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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » 19 aug 2010, 16:38

Ik kan mij herinneren dat mijn wij thuis vroeger (het zal midden jaren 80 geweest zijn) ook met de caravan (Fendt Joker) en 190D uit 1985 naar Frankrijk gingen. Dat ging goed, beter dan de 200E W124 die er een paar jaar later voor ging.
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 19 aug 2010, 16:49

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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Tourtoise » 19 aug 2010, 17:24

Wie is die nozem bij die aanhanger?
All is right with the world !!
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 19 aug 2010, 17:50

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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Arno_Langendam » 19 aug 2010, 18:01

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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor HansMercedes » 19 aug 2010, 21:09

Ha Ruben ik heb er al van alles achtergehad van caravans tot tandemassers . tijdens de verbouwing wel aanhang wagens weggetrokken van meer als 1500 kilo wat echt geen probleem was hoor . dus ik ben goed te spreken over de Benz 2.6 grt hans
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 19 aug 2010, 21:20

DAcht ik al Hans, maar een 2.6 om duizende kilometers mee te gaan rijden in je vakantie is niet echt economisch ;)

Ik neem aan dat het verbruik dan schrikbarend hoog ligt?
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor HansMercedes » 19 aug 2010, 21:27

Ja Ruben je mag er dan wel van uit gaan dat hij wat lust hoor . normaal op de lange afstand red ik 1op12 ,maar met een kar er achter zal dat snel wat meer zijn en dan is je 55 liter tank wat sneller leeg . en benzine is nog steeds duurder als diesel lol grt hans
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 19 aug 2010, 22:37

Als ik kijk op sites van b.v caravantrekker.nl, dan kom je met een 190D al gauw uit op *slechte prestaties* en *vaak terugschakelen*

Maar je maakt mij niet wijs, dat als ik pak m beet 700 kilo achter de auto heb hangen, er niet meer mee te rijden is. Ik denk dat ik het 1 dezer dagen gewoon eens ga proberen, kar laden met flink wat gewicht en een uur ga rijden, wat denken jullie?

Als er iemand is die het rijden met een kleine caravan achter een 190D als slecht hebben ervaren, zou ik dit graag willen weten! Dan moet er gewoon een andere auto aangeschaft worden en is het natuurlijk mooi da tik dit zo snel mogelijk weet ;)

Het rare is, dat als je op die site een 2.5 diesel pakt, de presties met 800 kilo ronduit perfect zijn, en het een hele goede auto is om op hele steile hellingen weg te kunnen rijden, je hebt ook voldoende kracht om goed t ekunnen accelereren op steile hellingen. Ik denk dat dat een beetje te positief is van meneer caravantrekker.nl?
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Bassje » 19 aug 2010, 23:05

Gewoon proberen!

Wij gingen jaren geleden op vakantie met een W124 250D uit '91 met een caravan van zo'n 1200kg en op de snelweg ging dat best prima weet ik mij te herinneren. Bij de wat steilere heuvels ging het wat minder hard, maarja. We zaten dan met z'n vijven in de auto met volle bepakking bij ons. We leken wel Turken haha.

Bij steile bergpassen wat het verbruik wel wat hoog, dat werd dan wel 1 op 8 ofzo.
Normale verbruik van dat ding was met airco zo'n 1 op 15.
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor HansMercedes » 20 aug 2010, 07:38

Veel helingen hebben we niet in Nederland ,maar ik zou het gewoon proberen . Me broer is jaren met Mercedes diesels op vakantie geweest en met een caravan er achter dus het moet lukken . denk alleen niet dat je snelheids records ga breken ,maar vakantie is toch ook een beetje onthaasten ;) grt hans
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor merskedes » 20 aug 2010, 09:44

Van de week toevallig nog met een aanhanger met huif gereden(komt bijna nooit voor)
aanhanger(enkel asser) is 2.80 lang en ong 1.80 hoog lag bijna niets in maar kon wel merken dat ie niet vooruit te branden was
Vrijheid is een vol getankte Mercedes.
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Kever » 25 aug 2010, 14:13

Afgelopen weken op pad geweest met m'n 2.5 diesel + 4 volwassenen + Hobby 420 caravan van 800 kg + 2 flinke fietsen + extra gewicht van bagage. Ik schat dat de caravan tegen de 1000 kg woog.
Ook ik vond het best spannend omdat het de eerste rit was met caravan en dan meteen goed beladen op weg naar Zuid-Limburg. Het is me alles meegevallen. Accelereren ging boven verwachting goed. 90 km is gemakkelijk te halen en vast te houden in de 5e versnelling. Wel zak je op hellingen, bruggen en viaducten vrij snel terug en moet je terugschakelen naar 4. Maar dan haalt hij het wel. Eén steile helling in Zuid-Limburg ben ik teruggeschakeld naar 3, en in Epen een heel steil weggetje de bebouwde kom uit omhoog in 2.
Wat me verder opviel is dat tegenwind haast nog meer weerstand oplevert dan een helling. Op de heenweg had ik wind mee en dan loopt het allemaal heel gemakkelijk. Op de terugweg met twee personen fikse tegenwind, en dan is 90 in de 5 alleen plankgas vast te houden.

Conclusie: je komt overal, maar moet vaker schakelen. Ik ben wel blij dat ik geen gewone 2.0 diesel heb, ik denk dat het dan toch echt allemaal wat langzamer gaat. Een 2.0 liter was voor mij van tevoren dan ook al afgevallen. Ik zou alleen een 2.0 diesel met aanhanger gebruiken, wanneer het een vouwwagen of kleinere en lagere caravan betrof, bijv. een Eriba met hefdak.

Mijn referentie is trouwens een Passat Variant VR6 (waarmee ik zo ongeveer het onderstel onder de opbouw wegtrok) en een daarna een Audi 80 Avant 1.9 TDI, 90 pk, 202 Nm. Die laatste is een goede vergelijking. Hij deed het met z'n turbo en hogere koppel net wat gemakkelijker. Ik kon er in Frankrijk op de teller 110 (= 104) mee volhouden in 5. Dat zie ik in de 190D 2.5 nog niet gebeuren.

O ja, het verbruik viel me ook mee. Normaal verbruik ik na 2500 km gemiddeld tussen 1:16 en 1:17, wat ik heel netjes vind. Met caravan en goed doorrijden is het ongeveer 1 : 10,5.

Hieronder een paar plaatjes van hoe het eruit ziet.
Op de eerste twee foto's zitten er drie personen in de Benz, op de derde foto is 'ie leeg.
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Dan nog iets over de wegligging. Ik vond de combinatie voortreffelijk sturen. Het is natuurlijk zaak goed te beladen, zeker met die twee fietsen op de dissel. Maar als je dat uitgekiend doet, ligt het geheel erg mooi. Al rijdend voelt het stabiel aan, haast nog rustiger dan solo. Ook veert de achterkant niet te diep door. Remmen vond ik ook prima gaan. Qua weglegging kan er denk ik nog wel meer achter, het max. aanhanger gewicht ligt volgens mij ook op iets van 1400 kg.

Al met al is het mij boven verwachting goed bevallen.
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Bassje » 25 aug 2010, 14:23

Fijn dat het allemaal goed is gegaan! Mooi gezicht, een W201 met een caravan er achter.
Wat deed je motortemperatuur met de caravan er achter?
Zo te zien kan het geen kwaad om achter een setje hulpveren te monteren, ga je dat nog doen of laat je het zo?
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Re: Lasten trekken met je W201

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 25 aug 2010, 14:31

Kijk daar hebben we wat aan! Ziet er inderdaad leuk uit. Alluwel mijn eventuele vakantie gaat gebeuren met een caravan van max 550 kilo, zie ik het toch niet echt met de 2.0 diesel gebeuren..
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