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Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor Schuutje » 06 nov 2013, 13:27

Beste W201 forumleden,

Ik heb een 3.0l 24v turbodiesel (OM606) van een W210 in mijn W201 liggen.
De differentieel is origineel die bij de 2.5l diesel hoort die standaard in de W201 zijn gemonteerd.
Heeft het nu nut om een andere differentieel te gaan monteren, omdat ik van 90 pk naar 180 pk ben gegaan.
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor ThomasHeuvel » 06 nov 2013, 18:07

Schuurtje,

Oh dat moet wel lekker rijden zeg, loopt en rijd de wagen al?
Want waar je op moet letten, is het verschil in overbrenging tussen die 2 differentiëlen.
Ik heb hier niet de verschillen voor mijn neus liggen van die 2 differentiëlen, maar volgens mij ga je met het oude diff meer toeren maken bij dezelfde snelheid dan als je een diff zou monteren die bij die motor past. In dat opzichte is het veel minder efficiënt rijden door meer toeren en is je topsnelheid beperkt.
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor DJS » 06 nov 2013, 18:18

Wat voor versnellingsbak heb je er achter hangen?
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Re: Welke differentieel?

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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor DJS » 06 nov 2013, 18:53

Dan zou ik er een 3.06 of 3.09 differentieel eronder proberen te zetten van bijvoorbeeld een W124 320E of 320TE. Dan draait de auto ongeveer 2500rpm bij 120 en is de topsnelheid ongeveer 240 (bij 5 bak handgeschakeld). Die kunnen lijkt mij het koppel van die dikke OM606 turbo ook wel aan. ;)
Wil je nog meer topsnelheid en minder toeren, dan kun je het differentieel van een W124 automaat 300 turbodiesel of 400E / 420E automaat proberen (2,65). Dan maakt hij ongeveer 2200 toeren bij 120 en zou hij pas in de top toeren (5000 RPM) bij 280 km/h. Dat zul je alleen niet halen met 180 pk.
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 06 nov 2013, 20:05

Een 2.6 automaat heeft een 3.07 dif, die zou stevig genoeg moeten zijn lijkt me.
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor GekkeHenkie » 06 nov 2013, 21:05

Diff van een W124 turbo. Is volgens mij 2.65. Draait ie lekker rustig jebhebt toch vermogen genoeg.

Heb je er een 4 trapsautomaat aan hangen?
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor Schuutje » 07 nov 2013, 19:16

De OM606 ligt in de auto en loopt heerlijk.
Ik maak helaas nog wel gebruik van de originele 5 bak handgeschakeld en de originele differentieel.
Ik wil wel handgeschakeld blijven rijden, maar wil mij toeren bij de 120 wel omlaag hebben.
Zo een (2.65) differentieel in combinatie met een schakelbak van een W124 320E zo dat een leuke optie zijn?
Of is dan de acceleratie te beroerd?
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor DJS » 07 nov 2013, 19:34

Ik heb nog even gekeken. Er is een middenweg. Het differentieel van een W124 300D automaat zonder turbo, heeft een ratio van 2.87 of 2.88. Dan maak je ongeveer 2350 toeren bij 120. ;)
De 320E heeft zover ik weet sowieso geen 2.65 ratio.
De aut4 en de man5 hebben volgens de epc 3.06 en de aut5 3.69. ;)

Maar ik zou denk ik voor een 3.06 differentieel gaan. Dan zit je bij 120 op ongeveer 2500 toeren. Dan zit de turbo er al lekker in dus zul je ook wat betere inhaalacties hebben, terwijl je ook een lekker laag toerental hebt. Je topsnelheid ligt dan rond de 240 als de motor sterk genoeg is om daar te komen. Het beste compromis vind ik zelf.
De 320E Aut4 en man5 heeft die ratio. De W124 250D aut4 heeft die ratio. De W124 300TD (kombi zonder turbo) aut4 heeft die ratio. De 190E 2.6 aut4 heeft, zoals Wiersma al zei, ook die ratio.
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor Orion » 07 nov 2013, 20:34

Wat dacht je van een 3.46 Dif :lol: Heb ik nog geheel nieuw in de doos liggen.
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor Fietsensloper » 08 nov 2013, 09:55

Haha ja dan word hij nog wat sneller :lol:
*Geld lijkt op vet. Van beide is er genoeg, maar altijd op de verkeerde plaatsen :|
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor Schuutje » 08 nov 2013, 14:53

Ik wil jullie allemaal al bedanken voor alle informatie die jullie tot nu toe hebben gegeven.
Helaas snap ik het nog niet helemaal.
Begrijp ik het goed dat een versnellingsbak dus ook een bepaalde ratio heeft?
En is het belangrijk dat ik de ratio van de versnellingsbak en het differentieel het zelfde hou.
Kan ik dit ook zelf allemaal opzoeken en berekenen?
Al moet ik wel zeggen dat het 3.06 verhaal heel goed klinkt.
Weet iemand misschien welke ratio de differentieel en de man5 van een W201 2.5D origineel hebben?
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Re: Welke differentieel?

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 08 nov 2013, 15:33

3.64
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Re: Welke differentieel?

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