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Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

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Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor rvh70 » 20 mei 2017, 22:20

Mijn Benz heeft kuren sinds dit weekend...

Het was bij mijn W201 altijd al zo dat ik met een koude motor mn best moest doen met het gaspedaal om hem in de eerste 500m in leven te houden (niet af laten slaan, m.b.v. gas geven, bij intrappen koppeling als ik tot stilstand moest komen bij verkeerslicht). Alleen is dat probleem zich nu ook bij een warme motor gaan voordoen...

Ik reed op een rotonde af en remde. Druk de koppeling in en bam 300-400 toeren eeeen de motor sloeg af. Leverde enigszins gevaarlijke situaties op. Oftewel: naar huis rijden via snelweg en files vermijden. De Benz staat inmiddels thuis voor de deur, en ik wil hem eerst repareren.

Stationair toerental hoger afstellen (geeneens een idee hoe dat uberhaupt moet) is voor mn gevoel maar symptoombestrijding.. Dus ik wil de kern van dit probleem opzoeken. Iemand hier ervaring mee?
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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 21 mei 2017, 07:50

klinkt mij als een vacuüm probleem
maar ook de lmm kan
of een vervulde stappen motor

even hier op het forum zoeken dan vindt je genoeg
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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor Bromgabber » 21 mei 2017, 09:21

Injectie of carburateur?
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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor rvh70 » 21 mei 2017, 13:32

Het is een injectie motor en ik tank structureel euro 95 bij tango.

Wat betreft de staat van de motor, ik heb nog niet écht een goed beeld van de staat van de auto. Het is mn eerste auto, ik heb hem net 3 maanden en ben nog niet echt bekend met auto techniek. Wat ik kan zeggen over de staat van de ontstekingsdelen: ik heb laatst de bougies vervangen. Tijdens die beurt ook olie en oliefilter aangepakt.

Een probleem met de vacuum zou wel verklaren waarom de auto bij 3000 toeren op de snelweg een soort puffend geluid maakt (dit was altijd al zo, ook voor gisteren). Dit leek wel iets erger te worden toen het stationair draaien echt problematisch werd.

Kortom ik ga kijken of ik ergens een lek kan vinden. Jullie horen van mij!
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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor rvh70 » 21 mei 2017, 13:33

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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor rvh70 » 21 mei 2017, 14:38

Bij een inspectie van de motor begon hij ook ineens olie te lekken bij de voorkant van de motor (bij de neus)

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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor rvh70 » 24 mei 2017, 11:26

Hierbij een filmpje van de draaidende motor.


Een maat van me vertelde me dat er inderdaad olie lijkt te lekken bij de krukaskeering, zie foto's.
Het lekt sowieso niet bij de koppakking of de carterpan, maar het was wel vochtig bij de kleppendeksel.

Bij verdere inspectie bleek er nog een (vacuum)slangetje los te zitten bij de ..., deze hebben we weer vastgezet, maar dat loste het probleem van het afslaan van de motor nog niet direct op. En omdat er nog steeds olie uit druppelt, wilde ik nog niet rijden (normaal werd dit gedrag dus beter bij een warme motor).
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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor rvh70 » 25 mei 2017, 23:12

Kleppendekselpakking gaat inderdaad vervangen worden. Het oliepeil stond een klein beetje te hoog dus heb ik wat laten zakken tot net onder Max. Er zit 10w40 in. Oliedruk is nog wel echt hoog volgens de sensor. Bij koude motor stationair structureel 3, bij semi-warme motor (had iets langer moeten rijden) nog steeds 3 bij stationair, dit zou 1 moeten zijn als ik me niet vergis.

Als ik je goed begrijp is de economy meter dus direct gelinkt aan de vacuüm? Die staat prima naar links volgensmij, ik zal het morgen nog even bekijken.

Ik zal de resultaten van de compressie test meedelen. Nadat de kleppen zijn gesteld

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Re: Afslaan bij stationair en vrij

Berichtdoor rvh70 » 26 mei 2017, 16:02

Vandaag de kleppen gesteld en dat leverde een beter geluid op. Eigenlijk stond geeneen van de kleppen echt goed afgesteld en dus was het een tijdrovende klus.

Na een proefrit hoorde we nog steeds gerammel bij 3000 toeren. Bij nadere inspectie bleek de stuurpomp ietwat axiale speling te hebben, is dat vaker een probleem bij de W201?

Wat me ook opviel was dat bij een koude motor, stationair draaiend, de economy meter niet op nul stond (helemaal links dus). Hij was er iets vanaf. Bij een klein beetje gas ging hij eerst naar 0 en daarna richting het rood. Stationair toerental was ook nog iets aan de lage kant (700-800) dus het zit nog niet helemaal lekker. Met een warme motor liep alles perfect op 1000 toeren en ook de economy meter.

Over het gespotte lek: volgens een vriend me die hielp leek het een waterpomp te zijn. En lekte er dus ook geen olie maar wat anders.

P.S.: Man man man wat leer ik een boel over autotechniek deze paar dagen. Geweldig!

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