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Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Harrie0803 » 10 dec 2014, 14:50

Beste leden,

Ik zit met een probleem en weet niet waar het aan ligt. Sinds een tijdje stottert mijn Mercedes 190E 2.0. Voorheen zat er een LPG tank in. Die is sinds een jaar of 2 verwijderd.
Dit is niet als ik wegrijd, maar ENKEL als hij warmer is dan 60 graden. Als ik continu het gas inhoudt is er niets aan de hand, maar als ik af moet remmen en weer moet optrekken kan ik gas geven maar dan stottert hij en komt hij nauwelijks vooruit. Trap ik dan de kickdown in dan is het probleem verholpen.

Ik heb de bougies en de rotor vervangen. Maar hij doet het nog steeds.

Kan iemand mij hier mee helpen aub??

Met vriendelijke groet,

Harrie
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor EmielW201 » 10 dec 2014, 19:29

Eerst even een vraagje. Toen de gas installatie nog in de auto zat, startte de auto toen op benzine waarna deze automatisch overschakelde op gas? Heb je tussendoor ook nog af en toe op benzine gereden?
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » 10 dec 2014, 19:47

ook belangrijk !!
een carburateur versie of niet ?
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Harrie0803 » 10 dec 2014, 21:18

Hoi Emiel en rojo,
De auto startte op benzine en tussendoor is ook geregeld op benzine gereden.
De auto is geen carburateur versie maar injectie.

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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 10 dec 2014, 21:22

Haal dan je luchtfilter er eens af en kijk eens hoe die klep zich beweegt als je gas geeft. Misschien blijft die bij gewoon gas geven hangen.
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Harrie0803 » 10 dec 2014, 21:25

Hoi Bram,
Ik zal dit eens proberen.
Vond het zo vreemd dat hij het alleen deed als hij warm is.
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 10 dec 2014, 21:30

Ïk heb het even aangemerkt met "hier"

Het is op de digitale snelweg lastig zoeken naar jouw probleem, maar je gaat er wel uitkomen. Kunnen verschillende oorzaken zijn.
Denk dat je daar moet beginnen, maar ga niets verstellen als je niet echt weet wat je doet.
Simpelweg op werking controleren.!!
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Harrie0803 » 10 dec 2014, 21:37

Dankjewel voor de foto Bram ben namelijk niet heel goed thuis onder de motorkap maar neem iemand mee die er wel verstand van heeft. Ik laat het weten als ik het heb bekeken.
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Harrie0803 » 11 dec 2014, 12:45

Hoi Bram, heb even onder de kap gekeken. Bedoel je deze klep? Of die daaronder zit als ik deze naar beneden duw?
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 11 dec 2014, 12:56

Voor mij werkt die link niet Harrie. En waarschijnlijk voor meer mensen niet. Ik kan je dus geen antwoord geven op je vraag.
Om die reden staat onderstaande in de spelregels.

Als we allemaal half of helemaal niet werkende linken plaatsen, hebben we een forum met lege of geen plaatjes.
Dat maakt de onderwerpen veelal een stuk onduidelijker ;)

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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Harrie0803 » 11 dec 2014, 13:04

Hoi Bram,

Excuses zal niet meer gebeuren zal het via hier doen.
Het gaat om het rechtse klepje op de foto waar geen kap op zit.

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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 11 dec 2014, 13:30

Sluit die goed af, en gaat hij soepel heen en weer. Ook met gas geven?
Dan kun je hem afvinken.

Zitten er al verstuivers in jouw type?
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 11 dec 2014, 16:52

moeilijk op gang komen bij warme motor met automaat
klinkt mij in de oren als een vacuüm probleem
controleer de vacuüm leidingen dit zijn nagenoeg alle kunststof leidingen vergeet ook je koplampen niet
sluit desnoods alle neven vacuüm dingen af dus dat alleen de motor delen het vacuüm hebben
http://www.fulica.nl (sorry nog steeds weinig foto's
let op wij zijn geen bedrijf ( de classics) maar wij zijn bezig met een hobby
in een mooie grote sleutel hal in Doetinchem

beschikken over EPC van Wensink
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Iggy » 11 dec 2014, 17:19

ik zie dat je een "telefoonschijf" hebt met een rubber erop, deze zou ik als eerste vervangen als ik jou was. dit kan als het rubber niet meer mooi aansluit voor allerlei problemen zorgen.
na het vervangen van de schijf en ook na het verwijderen van de LPG in ieder geval de co opnieuw afstellen. met luchtmengstuk erop voor de LPG is vaak de co afstelling op benzine helemaal anders.

verder zou ik ook de kabels goed doormeten, defekte kabels kunnen ook dit soort storingen geven.
ruik even aan je oliepeilstok of de olie naar benzine ruikt, dit kan een indicatie zijn van een defecte spinnenkop of lekkende injectors.
verder is het erg moeilijk om exact de vinger op de zere plek te leggen want het kan ook gewoon een sensor zijn die verkeerde waardes aangeeft of een koudstart injector die open blijft staan of zo. en zo zijn er nog wel wat dingen die dit kunne veroorzaken.

begin maar met de kabels, die moeten 1 kilo-ohm zijn ongeveer. en de olie dat kan je makkelijk zelf. daarna worden de stappen al moeilijker.
waar woon je ergens ongeveer? misschien kan iemand je helpen met de co afstellen of zo alvast.
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Re: Auto stottert

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » 11 dec 2014, 17:37

Ja dit kan van alles zijn ...maar begin bij het simpelste....rotor en bougies zijn vervangen.
vraagje waarom is de rotor vervangen en zitten er de goede bougies in ?...en hoe ziet de verdeelkap er uit?
2jaar geleden is het gas er uit gehaald....heeft hij daarna altijd zo beroert gelopen of is dit sinds kort?
en ja.....eerst even het CO afstellen....laat even weten welke omgeving je woont?
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