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Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor Musicman » 09 dec 2020, 18:10

Beste forumleden,
Iets vreemds...: Stap ik vanochtend in m'n 2.5D, die ongeveer 2 maanden ongebruikt in de drup heeft gestaan (met veel condens), valt mijn oog op het dashboard en zie ik tot mijn ontzetting dat er spontaan in linker onderhoek bij ventilatie een deel in 2 stukjes is uitgebroken! Rechter onderhoek laat scheurtje zien. :o
Heeft iemand zoiets al eens eerder gezien bij een buitenslaper? Vermoed dat het door vochtopname / spanning en ouderdom is ontstaan. Moet nu deel dash zien te vervangen. Lijmen is eigenlijk geen fraaie optie.
Ben benieuwd of iemand hier iets over kan zeggen. Baal als een stekker :cry:
Groet aan allen en STAY SAFE!
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor LloydGeenen » 09 dec 2020, 19:29

Eigenlijk is het niet meer dan een gevolg van ouderdom. Jaren lang hete zomers én koude winters. Dan scheurt dit materiaal waar de meeste spanning zit, namelijk bij een schroef(bevestiging).
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor MBreed » 10 dec 2020, 10:52

Bij de luchtroosterhuizen is dit inderdaad een bekend probleem. Helaas wordt een middelste luchtrooster die nieuw of heel is tegenwoordig in goud afgewogen. Zal niet meevallen hier iets te vinden.
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor Musicman » 10 dec 2020, 20:58

Aha, het is dus vooral ook de spanning t.p.v. de twee bevestigings schroeven. Dank Lloyd voor de opheldering. Had daar nog niet aan gedacht en dát is het natuurlijk.
Is het zo moeilijk zo'n deel te pakken te krijgen? Kan me nog zo goed een foto van ergens in Duitsland herinneren waar tientallen W201's in alle kleuren opgestapeld stonden......Alles zal overal toch niet al verschrot zijn? Tips welkom!
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor MartinB » 11 dec 2020, 13:28

Ik zou Maickel uit Veghel eens benaderen: onderdelen-ster.nl
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor MBreed » 11 dec 2020, 15:17

Alles wat gebruikt is kampt met hetzelfde probleem als wat jij hebt. Zolang het zit, zit het, demonteer het en het breekt spontaan uit elkaar. Ik heb er nog wel een liggen die aan de voorkant heel is, maar aan de achterkant is een deel van de bevestiging afgebroken. Als je daar wat mee kan moet je het maar laten weten.

Ik had een nieuwe te koop gezet in Duitsland. Ik werd platgebeld en heb uiteindelijk, nadat iedereen tegen elkaar aan het opbieden was 350€ gevangen. Hier ter indicatie hoe gek het wordt met dit onderdeel.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz-W ... Sw9iNfdI67
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor MartinB » 11 dec 2020, 16:57

Wat betreft die opgestapelde 190's, dat was bij MKAM in Kerpen (D): mkam.de

Wat een geld zeg voor zo'n onderdeel.
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 12 dec 2020, 17:42

190D 2.5 automaat 1986
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor Musicman » 12 dec 2020, 18:32

Wel...dat zijn nog eens goede berichten maar niet heus... Heb zelf inmiddels ook het net afgestruint en overal waar ze (ooit) te koop waren blijken ze nu uitverkocht. Het is dus een brokkelig geheel en lijkt dus bij de sloperij ook niet veel kans te hebben er heel uit te komen. Moet er in dit geval ook nog eens een zijn met 3 schakelaar openingen.....
Er was iemand in Duitsland die opperde dit deel wellicht te kunnen gaan "printen" . Je zou daar inderdaad serieus aan kunnen verdienen. Maar zelfs voor scannen en printen is dit gecompliceerde geval eigenlijk een brug te ver.
Dank MB voor je zeer gewaardeerde aanbod. Als 't nodig is en me zeker verder helpt kom ik er graag op terug!
Verduveld vervelend probleem.....
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor MBreed » 12 dec 2020, 18:45

De Duitse Mercedesclub VDH doet vaak reproducties in samenwerking met het Mercedes-Benz classic center. Gezien het grote probleem, zou het goed kunnen dat die dit onderdeel in het programma gaan nemen.
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor Musicman » 19 sep 2023, 19:50

Heb altijd een beetje hekel aan items met een probleem waar dan de uiteindelijke oplossing niet wordt aangedragen...
Wel...... mea culpa... Heb dus zelf verzuimd dit te doen. Alsnog dus: Heb het middelste ventilatierooster uitgebouwd en heb alle stukjes zorgvuldig met acrylaatlijm weer op z'n plaats gekregen. Heb achter de beschadiging en bij de andere plekken van schroefbevestiging de achterkant met wat 2K kunsthars versterkt.
Daarna met "Krylon ultra matte black" de hoek lichtjes bestoven en zie: als je 'tniet weet zie je het niet. Opgelost!
Ik raad aan bij de hermontage de onderste schroeven niet te zwaar aan te trekken. Minder spanning=beter.
Die Krylon spray is een Amerikaans product dat prachtig diep zwart mat geeft ( net zoals binnenin een camera).
Heb ooit een doos met 8 cans uit de U.S. laten komen... Kon niet anders :D Als iemand zo'n bus wil overnemen graag P.N
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor Theo53 » 20 sep 2023, 21:56

Chapeau!
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 23 sep 2023, 07:58

Waar is die rechterknop nou voor, naast je schuifdak schakelaar ? :shock: :geek:
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Re: Zelfontbinding dashboard?

Berichtdoor Musicman » 23 sep 2023, 19:42

Dat noem je nou opmerkingsgave! De knop bedient een relais waardoor je kunt kiezen tussen normale claxon of pneumatische hoorn.
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Berichtdoor MBSLC » 24 sep 2023, 07:06

Aha ! Ik had al het vermoeden, dat het niet origineel was. Je ziet op die plek ook vaak rode lichtjes voor het alarm etc., maar een pneumatische hoorn, was me nog niet bekend ! :unsure:
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Berichtdoor Bassje » 24 sep 2023, 18:31

In andere modellen is deze optie geleverd: Zweiklangfanfare.
Deze optie was er speciaal voor 'bergachtige' landen. Zo kan je op smalle bergpassen waar je niet met z'n 2-en langs elkaar kunt rijden laten 'weten' dat je er aan komt, zo dat de ander even kan wachten.
De toon van de hoorn is ongeveer de helft zachter en klinkt beschaafder dan de normale claxon.
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Berichtdoor MBSLC » 25 sep 2023, 05:01

Weer wat geleerd, bedankt Bas ! :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Berichtdoor Musicman » 11 okt 2023, 21:41

Misschien ten overvloede...: Heb ook in hetzelfde ventilatiepaneel het bekende probleem gehad dat je bij het drukken op een van de electrische schakelaars de schakelaar "door het paneel" naar de ruimte daarachter drukt. Dat komt dan doordat één van de twee zwakke, dunne randjes van het paneel ( l. en R. van de schakelaar) zijn afgebroken. Dan moet het ventilatiepaneel er uit om er nieuwe, sterkere randen in te maken. Dit sluit aardig aan op het bovenstaande verhaal en staat als item onder: Middelste ventilatiebehuizing extractie... . op het forum.
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