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Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor Knapen » 31 dec 2009, 11:08

Hoi mijn 190D heeft nogal vrij veel last van het klikkende geluid als ik de koppeling snel laat opkomen . Ik voel ook het bonanza effect bij spelen met het gaspedaal , dan schok ik echt in mijn zetel. Ik vermoed dat er dus speling op het differentieel zit . Ik voel dit ook als ik aan de centrale cardan draai. Het probleem is dat het om een sperdifferentieel gaat en dit volgens mij niet zo eenvoudig is om te reviseren. Heeft iemand ervaring met een differentieel revisie . Of kan in beter een 2ehands differentieel kopen ? Ik heb ook al liggen denken om alles te vervangen door een gewoon differentieel , maar dan moet ik die pomp van de nokkenas afhalen , en kweet niet of die nokkenas dan uit mijn cilinderkop zou steken . Afbeelding van mijn motor ( de wagen heeft 184000km)

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Re:Revisie differentieel

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Re:Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor Knapen » 01 jan 2010, 17:20

Awel , ik heb de speling gevoeld door aan de cardanas (de centrale tussen versnellingsbak en differentieel wel te verstaan) te draaien en het wiel tegen te houden , ik schat toch 3 graden verdraaiing mogelijk . Ik zou niet weten van waar dat bonanza effect (of hoe noemen jullie dat hier :p ) anders zou komen . Uiteindelijk is het allemaal niet zo dringend , zolang ik deze zomer naar de cote d'azur kan gaan ben ik al tevreden :d

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Re:Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor PieterW » 01 jan 2010, 19:11

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Re:Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor Knapen » 01 jan 2010, 19:40

Kga mij er achter mijn examens nog eens onder smijten , kmoet (mag) helaas studeren tot 29 januari , dus nog 4 weken .
Kga dan meteen mijn olie verversen , motorflush , nieuwe filterkes en andere banden steken achteraan.


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Re:Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor HansMercedes » 01 jan 2010, 19:46

oke hou ons maar op de hoogte want we zijn wel nieuwsgierig wat er nu precies an de hand is grt hans
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Berichtdoor HansMercedes » 01 jan 2010, 20:09

ik denk dat er vele leden nog jaloers kunnen worden op zo een cardan omdat deze wat pieter al zei een mooi duure optie was en het geeft een stukje vieligheid zeker als je met een wiel in de berm staat of zo iets ,want dan krijg jij hem er zonder problemen weer uit doordat de krachten dan over de 2 wielen blijft gaan en het doorslippen beperkt word grt hans
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Re:Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor hsl » 02 jan 2010, 14:50

Als het mag, even een vraagje tussendoor:
Weet iemand hier toevallig een bedrijf dat de platen in een sperdifferentieel kan vervangen?

Ik ga namelijk mijn open differentieel vervangen door een gebruikt sperdifferentieel. Die differentielen hebben na 20 jaar allemaal wel zo'n 200.000km gelopen en dan zal de hoeveelheid sper wel niet meer de originele +/-30% zijn. (Als het niet hydraulisch bekrachtigd wordt.)
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Re:Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor Knapen » 02 jan 2010, 17:49

Ja , zo heb ik het toen uitgevoerd . Ik zal achter de examens nog is alles checken , als de vierpalenbrug vrij is zal ik hem daar eens opzetten , dan staan de wielen vast . Kheb de differentieel olie onlangs al is vervangen , en mijn vinger in dat gat gestoken :laugh: , echt scherp voelden die tanden niet aan van het kroonwiel . Het is ook zo dat de wagen trilt bij snelheden rond de 120 km/u (alsof je over kleine hobbeltjes rijdt. Kheb al eens mijn wielen gebalanceed ,maar echt weg was het daar niet mee . Voor de zomer wil ik nog de koppeling vervangen , die zal er ook al 21 jaar inzitten.
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Re:Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor hsl » 03 jan 2010, 12:38

Ik bedoelde eigenlijk het sper-gedeelte. Aangezien zo'n platensper vergelijkbaar functioneert als de koppeling in je auto, verslijten de platen in het sper net zoals de plaat van de koppeling (Voor zover ik begrepen heb.) In het diff zit aan beide zijden (li en re) een pakket van 5 koppelingsplaten en 5 metalen platen. Wanneer die verslijten dan hoor of voel je daar niets van (vermoed ik). Alleen de sperwerking vermindert. Bij een auto die origineel van ASD is voorzien zul je het waarschijnlijk niet snel merken, omdat een computer via een pompje hydraulische druk zet op een zuiger in het diff die de platen aandrukt en waardoor de sperwerking tot 100% kan worden opgevoerd. Ook al zijn de platen dan deels versleten, dan hou je nog steeds voldoende sperwerking in dat geval. (Ook zonder de hydraulische druk zal er sperwerking zijn. Bij nieuwe platen ongeveer 30%. (Dit percentage varieert afhankelijk aan wie je het vraagt.))

In mij geval is het iets anders. Ik wil een ASD differentieel monteren zonder de computer en toebehoren. (Uiteindelijk is het wel de bedoeling er een handpompje+drukmeter op aan te sluiten om zo handmatig de druk in te kunnen stellen.) Ik neem de auto een paar maal per jaar namelijk ook mee het circuit op. Maar normaal gesproken is het een auto voor dagelijks gebruik.
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Re:Revisie differentieel

Berichtdoor Bassje » 06 jan 2010, 20:44

Wat een mooi stukje techniek wat we op die foto zien! :woohoo:
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