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Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

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Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Bizo » 13 feb 2011, 20:57

Mannen,

Mijn Mercedes 190D wil de laatste tijd steeds minder goed starten, alleen wanneer hij een langere tijd heeft stil gestaan (+- 8-10 uurtjes) een nacht zeg maar. Het voorgloeilampje gaat branden en gaat vervolgens weer uit, ik start de motor en na wat geschut en gestoot met gas bij geven wil hij aan slaan (wel even doorstarten). Tijdens het starten slaat hij wel een aantal keer "aan".

Nu heb ik de brandstoffilters vervangen dit is dus uitgesloten.

Zal dit te maken hebben met de gloeibougies of gloeirelais of iets dergelijks? Het lampje brand verder niet tijdens het rijden of iets, alleen wanneer hij hoort te branden!

Of is dit een brandstof probleem...

Hoe kan ik het beste mijn gloei systeem even elemaal na kijke/meten...

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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Colja2002 » 13 feb 2011, 21:19

ik zou zeggen gloeibougies

als je een multimeter hebt dan is het simpel door te meten

zet hem op ohm , bijna volledig rondje met twee voetjes

meet op schroefdraad aansluiting en de massa van de gloeibougie ( daar waar de dopsleutel op gaat)


zitten de waardes te ver uit elkaar dan zou ik ze vervangen ,
voor reparatie,s aan iphone / ipod en nintendo bent u bij mij aan het goede adress
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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Bizo » 14 feb 2011, 16:00

Vandaag even naar de dealer gebeld, deze had vorige week al even gekeken naar een eventuele lekkage van de o ringetjes of iets dergelijks en melde dat ik de STOP knop even in de gaten moest houden en dat hij hierdoor wel eens slecht kon starten. Aan de gloeispiralen zou het niet kunnen liggen, omdat het voorgloei lampje functioneert zoals hij moet werken en omdat de auto niet altijd slecht start.

Het viel me vandaag op voordat ik weg reed van school dat de stop knop niet onderin zat maar halverwege (zonder het contact aan te hebben) en ja hij starte niet heel goed..

Ik zal dit eens in de gaten houden en wanneer ik meer weet horen jullie het van me;)

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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor MercedesFTW » 17 feb 2011, 12:21

Met vriendelijke groet,

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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Bigidiot » 17 feb 2011, 17:39

check je vacuum eens als het goed is werkt je stopzetter op vacuum
Alles wat ik in in deze wereld heb zijn mijn ballen en mijn woord en ik breek ze voor niemand!
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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Egbert » 17 feb 2011, 18:20

Tank je toevallig goedkope diesel bij een Tango of iets dergelijks?
Ik dacht eerder dat dat niet uitmaakte omdat het uit dezelfde depots komen. (dacht ik)

Nu hebben wij bij ons thuis een Polo sdi, prima ding maar hij heeft een hele poos slecht gestart. Lang pruttelen en schudden en blauw roken en vervolgens met veel gepruttel aanslaan.
Er mankeerde niks aan en toch slecht starten, alle onderdelen waren goed!

Uiteindelijk eens een keer toevallig bij de BP getankt en prompt is het starten lopen. Sindsdien weer een paar keer bij de Firezone getankt, zo'n onbemande pomp dus. En prompt weer slecht starten.
Vanaf toen weer bij de BP en het is starten lopen! Later had m'n broer dat met z'n Golf 3 op benzine net zo! Slecht starten, tankt benzine bij de Gulf en prompt start het weer goed.

Nu acht ik de kans klein dat dat het probleem is, maar stel dat je sinds kort ergens anders tankt, tank dan om het uit te sluiten weer even bij een andere pomp.
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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 17 feb 2011, 18:43

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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 17 feb 2011, 18:44

btw, die stop-knop kan inderdaad goed zijn, de turbodiesel van mn Pa ging er beroerd door lopen. de stopmagneet was wat krom.
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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor MercedesFTW » 17 feb 2011, 18:48

Met vriendelijke groet,

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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Bizo » 17 feb 2011, 19:04

Nee tank voornamelijk gewoon bij shell!.
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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Bizo » 17 feb 2011, 19:06

Ruben wat bedoel je met die stop knop kan inderdaad goed zijn?

Dat dit de oorzaak van de stopknop kan zijn? Of zou dit door een vacuum lekje kunnen zijn
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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Bizo » 17 feb 2011, 19:17

Ruben hier kan je hem zien. roken en slecht lopen in het algemeen doet hij niet....

Hij start alleen moeilijk omdat de stopknop na een wat langer tijd omhoog gaat staan (dus de stand die hij heeft wanneer de motor loopt) maar hij dus nog gestart moet worden. Dit lijkt mij een vacuum lekje ofniet?

Wanneer ik gereden heb en kijk gelijk onder de kap naar de positie van stop knop kijk, staat deze in de stand waar hij hoort te staan. Na een wat langere tijd gaat hij dus uit zich zelf terug
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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 17 feb 2011, 21:24

Vreemd, dan moet er toch iets mis zijn met je stopmagneet. Ik zal het morgen eens voorleggen aan mn Pa hoe dit kan.. ik weet zo 1 2 3 niet precies hoe deze omhoog komt tijdens het starten. Een stopmagneet kun je niet even om te proberen vervangen want die kosten nogal geld dacht ik.
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Re: Slecht starten Mercedes-Benz 190D

Berichtdoor Franx » 04 jul 2011, 17:16

^^ opgelost ?

Ja die stopknop werkt op de vacuumpomp inderdaad. Heb ik ergens gelezen op dit forum of het W124
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