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Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor. : Techniek W201

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Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor ArieH » 08 jan 2020, 12:43

Hoi allen, heb een probleem met mijn 190,

Als ik de auto met koude motor start, slaat hij direct aan en loopt keurig op 4 cilinders.
Pakt goed op met gas geven en schakelen.

Echter zodra de auto ook maar enigszins warm begint te worden, begint hij te bokken stationair en wil hij ook heel moeizaam oppakken.
Ook als hij al op snelheid komt is het oppakken van de auto heel erg moeizaam, automaat reageert ook slecht.
Je voelt de auto ook echt schudden, alsof hij op 3 cilinders loopt.
Ook het stationair toerental is ongeveer 500tpm.

De auto is een:

190E
2.0 Automaat bj 88

Het volgende is allemaal vervangen.
Rotor, verdeelkap, bougies, kabels, luchtfilter, brandstoffilter, tankzeef.

Wat o wat zou het kunnen zijn?
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Re: Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » 08 jan 2020, 15:31

Vervangen kan wel, maar ook afgesteld?

Luchtlekkage in het onderdruksysteem.
Problemen in de brandstof toevoer naar de injectie.
Membraan van de luchtweger gescheurd.
Injectors naar z'n grootje.
Injectorrubbers lek.
Kleppen niet gesteld/defect.
Nokkenas versleten.

Kies maar..
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Re: Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor Knuffelbeer » 08 jan 2020, 21:05

Lmm nakijken.
altijd feest als je met een Benz bent weg geweest
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Re: Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor ArieH » 09 jan 2020, 19:04

Dankjulliewel voor de gegeven tips.
De auto gaat 15 januari terug naar de Mercedes/museum dealer.
Ze vonden het ook wel raar dat dat zo snel is gebeurd.
De monteur die vroeger ook al aan de oudere Benzen sleutelde komt erbij kijken om het op te lossen. :mrgreen:

Dus dat vind ik echt wel fijn dat het zo netjes wordt opgepakt. :dance:
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Re: Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor rvh70 » 09 jan 2020, 23:54

Ik zou aan alle bovenstaande mogelijke problemen nog graag de EHA (elektro hydraulic actuator) willen toevoegen. Die is verantwoordelijk voor de verschildruk in de 2 kamers van de KE jetronic injectie. Als je motor warmer wordt zou die in actie moeten komen om de juiste drukken te regelen. Als dat niet goed gaat dan kom je simpelweg brandstof tekort. Waardoor je inderdaad op 3 cylinders zou kunnen lopen (1 injector die dan net niet open gaat door te weinig druk)

Blijft speculatie vanuit mijn hoek maar ik kan echt niks anders bedenken met de bovenstaande probleem beschrijving.
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Re: Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor Romke88 » 16 jan 2020, 15:40

ik heb precies het zelfde met mijn 2.0E uit 1986. Alleen als die van mij op bedrijfs temperatuur is. 80 gr, dan loopt hij goed, en rijdt hij perfect. Het is net of wordt er een schakelaar omgezet bij 80 gr
Dan vervallen heel veel oplossingen zoals vacuum slangen, luchtweger etc etc
Ik ben benieuwd waar die Mercedes monteur mee komt

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Re: Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor Romke88 » 16 jan 2020, 18:46

Ja ook vervangen door een nieuwe, als ik hem loskoppel wil hij helemaal niet starten.
Dan ga ik er van uit dat het de temp sensor is, met 2 aansluitingen vooraan op het blok, in het rijtje van 3

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Re: Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor ArieH » 17 jan 2020, 10:42

Ben ook benieuwd. Hij staat nu vanaf dinsdag bij de Mercedes.
Monteur dacht in eerste instantie aan brandstof probleem. Maar goed ze zijn hem aan het nakijken.
Wat de bevindingen zijn deel ik uiteraard!
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Re: Auto loopt heel moeilijk met warm wordende motor.

Berichtdoor Romke88 » 26 jan 2020, 21:33

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