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Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Musicman » 24 nov 2019, 20:00

Een 190E (1995cc) van 1989 heeft gebruikelijk een 4-bak. Kan iemand mij zeggen hoeveel toeren de motor draait bij 120 km per uur? En is het mogelijk om een ( latere?) 5-bak gemakkelijk te installeren t.p.v. de eerste 4-bak?
Overweeg een mooie 190E aan te schaffen maar ben erg gesteld op 5 versnellingen of overdrive voor lage toeren op kruissnelheid. Heb met dit type, als dieselrijder ( met 5-bak..), geen enkele ervaring! Hopelijk kan iemand mij hier wat meer over vertellen...?
Laatst bijgewerkt door Musicman op 25 nov 2019, 21:10, in totaal 1 keer bewerkt.
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor VmaX » 25 nov 2019, 18:11

waarom neem je geen automaat?
Dat is pas relaxed..
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 25 nov 2019, 23:02

Als je een 5 bak wilt, kun je het beste een auto kopen met een 5 bak. Dat is wel zoeken, ze zijn niet dik gezaaid.
In de 5 maak je ca. 80% van de toeren in de 4.

Wil je toch ombouwen, zorg dan voor een complete set, dus bak, drager, aandrijfas, schakelstangen en schakelmechanisme.
Ook de koppeling kan anders zijn, aantal splines en druklager, al naar gelang bouwjaar.
Heb je de set compeet, is het bolt-on.
Gebruik je een bak van een C of E Klasse, zul je m.i. de schakelstangen moeten aanpassen en heb je geen passende aandrijfas. Deze zul je dan op maat moeten laten maken, of alsnog een aandrijfas van een 190 met 5-bak zoeken.

Bij 120 zal je motor met een 4 bak ca 3500 toeren maken, met een 5 bak een kleine 3000.
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Fietsensloper » 27 nov 2019, 12:13

Mijn 2.0E van 1986 draait bij 130km/h op de teller 2700 toeren in de 5. Geloof wel dat er na de facelift e.e.a. is gewijzigd aan de verhoudingen in de bak en het diff.
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Musicman » 27 nov 2019, 20:23

Prima informatie waar ik wat wijzer van geworden ben. Veel dank voor jullie reacties! Wist niet dat in 1986 de 5-bak al beschikbaar was. Zeer interessant.
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Grifke94 » 27 nov 2019, 21:33

Bij 120 km/h draait een 190E met 2.0 motor ongeveer 3400-3500 toeren in z'n 4, maak je er zelf een 5-bak van of pak je een 190E met 5 bak tot de Mopf van 1989, dan wordt dat 2600 in z'n 5.
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Musicman » 28 nov 2019, 11:51

Top informatie... dank je zeer!!!
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 28 nov 2019, 18:05

Mercedes had ooit een wiki met alle gegevens, gelukkig is die terug te vinden met wayback machine.
Hier staan alle versnelling ratios en dif verhoudingen in.

Pre facelift gegevens:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160404053 ... etriebe/en

facelift:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160404054 ... etriebe/en

Zo kan je rekenen waar je toeren op uitkomen.
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Musicman » 29 nov 2019, 18:07

Prachtig! Dank je zeer! Heb net ook interessant artikel gevonden in oudere "Autoweek" Daaruit bleek dat de automaat perfect functioneert maar.... bij 120km/uur, net als de 4-bak ongeveer 3500 toeren maakt. Met de 5-bak is dat 2600. Een fors verschil en is voor mij dé optie om te hebben. We weten er nu wel het nodige van en ik dank jullie hartelijk voor de leerzame en interessante input. Klasse!
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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Gombal » 30 nov 2019, 00:52

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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor VmaX » 30 nov 2019, 10:49

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Re: Vraag over toerental 190E 1989 bij 120 km/u

Berichtdoor Musicman » 30 nov 2019, 21:24

De auteur van het artikel in Autoweek heeft zélf de 2.0 automaat en roemt de kwaliteit en het mooie schakelen van de automaat en geeft hoog op over het gladde trillingsvrije lopen van de 4-cylinder die je, zoals hij zegt, erg doet denken aan een 6-cylinder! Voilá! Klopt dus met je eigen ervaring!
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