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vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er tegen : Algemene vragen over jouw W201

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vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er tegen

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vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er tegen

Berichtdoor Anthony » 06 okt 2018, 22:26

hallo,

afgelopen week zie ik in het nieuws dat vanaf 12okt de 'veilige' benzine voor onze oude W201 anders gaat heten.
Het gaat vanaf 12okt Euro95 E10 heten!
maar mijn vraag is nu: krijg ik dan nog steeds exact dezelfde benzine als vóór 12okt (met 5% ethanol erin) of zit er dan ook gelijk 10% ethanol in?
Ik mag het toch niet hopen want ik begrjip dat onze motoren daar niet goed tegen kunnen?
weet iemand hier meer over?

ik weet dat in belgie geen euro95 met 5% te krijgen is, daar is het al ruim een jaar euro95 E10 met 10% rotzooi erbij.
daarom was ik altijd nog bereid om in NL een hogere prijs te betalen voor de veilige 5% euro95.

alvast dank.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Steve » 07 okt 2018, 03:10

Je kan ook nog de 98 tanken, die zou dan E5 gaan heten.
https://www.hln.be/geld/consument/diese ... ~ab6d7d5d/
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Anthony » 07 okt 2018, 09:41

ja, dat is waar.

ik heb meerdere forums gelezen dat de W201 met injectie motor en af fabriek 3weg kathalysator wel goedkeuring hebben om E10 te tanken.
Laat ik nou nét een 1.8 hebben met af fabriek die kathalysator erin. dus hij zo er tegen moeten kunnen.
heb dit op zowel duitse en belgische sites gevonden.
maargoed, met 98erin loop je minder risico in ieder geval.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Kennytuning » 07 okt 2018, 10:43

Nee, E10 tast de dichtingen aan.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Knuffelbeer » 07 okt 2018, 13:30

Wordt het nu dus e5 tanken in Nederland????
Dan moeten we ook de ontsteking goed zetten volgens mij!!!
altijd feest als je met een Benz bent weg geweest
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Anthony » 07 okt 2018, 13:54

ik heb ergens gelezen dat voorlopig(tot ergens in 2019) in Nederland de euro95 E10 nog slechts 5% ethanol zal bevatten.
Dus de benzine van euro95 zal niet anders worden over een week.

maar vanaf ergens in 2019 zal de euro95 E10 met echt 10% ethanol wel worden verkocht in NL.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » 08 okt 2018, 17:06

Gewoon Vpower of BP ultimate tanken...is iets duurder maar je rijdt meer kilometers dus de uitgaven blijft gelijk.
verder is het beter voor de motor...dus toch voordeliger.

dit merk je niet na 1x tanken...maar pas na een paar keer.
Na een paar keer tanken merkte ik dat ik 15 a 20% meer kilometers reed op een tankbeurt.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Guppie » 08 okt 2018, 22:39

Nou in ieder geval kunnen de o-ringen er tegen:

1e linkje is voor ethanol (de E in de brandstof)
http://www.efunda.com/designstandards/o ... SC=Ethanol

2e linkje is voor gewone benzine...
http://www.efunda.com/designstandards/o ... motive#mat

Ik vraag me af van welk materiaal die dichtingen zijn dat ze er niet tegenkunnen....

Enige wat ik me kan voorstellen, is dat de o-ring minder zou zwellen in zuivere ethanol, echter is het een mengsel van slechts 10%, waardoor dit eigenlijk niet op kan treden. Hetzelfde effect als het tanken van GTL in een oude diesel auto, dan gaat ook alles lekken, betekent echter ook dat de dichtingen toch al marginaal zijn....

groter probleem: ethanol is hygroscopisch, trekt dus water aan, waardoor er wat kan gaan groeien in je tank als je de auto niet vaak gebruikt.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » 10 okt 2018, 17:01

Waar in Rotterdam heb je die Firezone pomp dan Thomas ?
ik ken er wel 1 in Brielle.
en ja die octaan 102 dat rijdt wel goed zeker ...en wat kost dat per liter ?
En ja de EZL resistor knop moet altijd op S staan
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Knuffelbeer » 10 okt 2018, 18:41

@rojo
15 tot 20 % meer kilometer is wel erg veel of heb ik dat mis?
Dan zou mijn auto ipv 1:11 1:14 gaan rijden.
altijd feest als je met een Benz bent weg geweest
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Silverstar » 10 okt 2018, 20:19

ethanol tast aluminium aan,
Bij nieuwere auto's zijn de aluminium delen gecoat.
Bij onze oudjes niet! :blink:
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor ScareMercy » 10 okt 2018, 21:21

Zoals Silverstar al zegt tast het aluminium aan, zoals je spinnenkop, brandstofpomp etc. Dit bleek zelfs uit een test van de ADAC. Niet direct uiteraard, maar wel op de langere termijn.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Mylan1999 » 11 okt 2018, 13:51

Hier in België is 95E10 al langer in gebruik (sinds januari 2016), maar ik weet ook nog steeds niet of m'n 190E van 1990 er tegen kan. Of er een katalysator af fabriek onder zit weet ik niet. Aan wat zou ik dat kunnen zien?
Ik tank dan maar steeds 98E5 voor de zekerheid.
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Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 11 okt 2018, 22:06

Ik heb mij laten vertellen dat op een katalysator af fabriek een ster moet staan.

Die van mij heb ik in de garage liggen/eruit gehaald, daar staat geen ster op, dus al een keer vervangen.
Zonfder ster is hij ook niets waard zei de oud ijzerboer.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor ScareMercy » 12 okt 2018, 11:32

Ik persoonlijk vind het onderscheid tussen of je auto er wel of niet tegen kan aan de hand van of er wel of geen katalysator aanwezig is volkomen onzin. Een katalysator is een alleenstaand iets, dat niets met je brandstofsysteem te maken heeft (behalve dat er bij sommige systemen bij het regenereren extra brandstof wordt ingespoten, maar daar hebben onze Benzen geen last van).

De onderdelen van het brandstofsysteem zijn bij een wagen met katalysator gelijk aan een wagen zonder, dus de problemen zijn ook gelijk.
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Mylan1999 » 12 okt 2018, 12:56

Maar hoe zie je exact of je wagen met een katalysator is uitgerust?


Zijn er hier mensen die al ervaring met E10 in een 190 hebben?
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Knuffelbeer » 12 okt 2018, 18:55

Ik heb mijn eigen er eens in verdiept.
En ik tank alleen nog e5.
altijd feest als je met een Benz bent weg geweest
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Re: vanaf 12okt is het Euro 95 E10 ... maar kan de auto er t

Berichtdoor Silverstar » 13 okt 2018, 21:19

als er een van deze codes op je kenteken staat, zit er een katalysator af fabriek in!

K6 - schoon met katalysator, al dan niet geregeld.
K9 - schoon met ongeregelde katalysator.
U9 - schoon met lambdasonde (geregekde katalysator).
E2 - schoon met lambdasonde (geregelde katalysator)


Mijn 190 is van mei '93 toen was het net verplicht om een katalysator onder de auto te hebben.
En heb de code U-9 op het kenteken staan.
hier kan Euro 95/98 in.
E-10 is een hele andere benzine, vroeg of laat kan je problemen krijgen.
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