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Aansluiting elektrische ramen : Interieur W201

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Aansluiting elektrische ramen

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Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Marcelenshirley » 10 apr 2017, 19:29

Goedeavond,
Een poos geleden.heb ik een set voor elektrische.ramen van een mede forumlid.gkocht.
Dus 2 raammotoren,schakelaars en de draadboom met relais.
De stekker voor in de zekeringkast zou een diode.moeten bevatten volgens de verkoper..
Nu is alles aangesloten en er gebeurt helemaal niks.
Moet er ook een draad naar het verdeelblok bij de koppeling,?
Alle hulp is zeer welkom dan kan ik alles weer in elkaar zetten en genieten van het mooie weer hopelijk met de ramen open!!
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Kippas » 10 apr 2017, 19:59

De stekker voor in de zekeringkast en de diode zijn twee aparte stekkers. Wellicht heb je de stekker op de plaats van de diode aangesloten. Er hoeft sowieso niks op het verdeelblok bij de koppeling aangesloten te worden.
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 10 apr 2017, 20:54

misschien een hele domme vraag maar....heb je wel de zekeringen geplaatst?
en zit het relais op de goede plek dacht dat hij in de middelste moest zitten
de stekkers kunnen er maar op 1 manier in

als je de zekeringen etc wil uitsluiten kan je via een losse kabel met zekering 12 volt zetten op de pennen van de stekker
dan zouden de ramen moeten werken
als het goed is zijn de allebei rode draden met een kleur er bij in maar zijn beiden 12 volt

als de ramen dan wel werken dan kan het probleem in de zekeringskast kunnen zitten
maar dan vermoed ik eerder het relais deze gaan namelijk ook wel eens kapot
ook deze kan je testen moet je even op het schema kijken wat de spoel is
hier ook even 12 volt op zetten of beter pak een 9 volt batterij dan kan je minder schade aanrichten als je de verkeerde pennen pakt :D
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bobracing » 10 apr 2017, 20:54

Simpel:

Kabelboom heeft uit me hoofd:
1x bruine = massa en hoort achter tellerbak links
1x rode = links onder bij voeten op verdeelblok.
1x grijs blauw = rechts van dashboard achter tellerklok
1x relais = onderin zekeringskast vanuit de voeten gezien.

Mogelijk nog 1x zwarte? dan deze ook op verdeelblokje bij voeten links...

Kabel gewoon leggen via originele route en het kan bijna niet anders want kabel is pas klaar./

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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Marcelenshirley » 11 apr 2017, 05:34

Dank voor het reageren!!!
Ga dalijk kijken of ik nog draden over t hoofd heb gezien volgens mij niet.
Dan maar stroom op de pinnen uit proberen laat het horen!
Als er geen draden zijn en hij doet het wel op die pinnen kan ik ze dan op de schakel + zetten bij het voeteneind?
Gr Marcel en nogmaals Dank
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 11 apr 2017, 06:21

Nee dat kan niet de ramen vragen veel meer vermogen dan dat blokje kan leveren
Controleer het relais dan eerst en de zekeringen
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Marcelenshirley » 11 apr 2017, 06:30

Goedemorgen Bas,
Zekeringen zijn nw,relais weet ik niet precies te testen :D
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Marcelenshirley » 11 apr 2017, 17:24

Vandaag gezocht naar draden die er dus echt niet zijn!
Rechtstreeks + op de pinnen gezet,toen had ik alleen stroom als ik omhoog indrukte?
Er komt dus echt geen stroom op de kabels!
Kan iemand.mij zeggen wat ik nu moet doormeten en vooral ook hoe hahaha!
Bvd gr Marcel
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 11 apr 2017, 20:07

heb je de bruine massa draad achter de tellerbak wel aangesloten?
als je die niet hebt klopt er iets niet met je kabelboom

de schakelaars bepalen hoe de + en - na de motors toe gaan
dus in de deur moeten beiden draden na de schakelaars toe gaan
en mogen onderweg nergens aan een massa hangen

ik heb een heel klein vermoeden dan je misschien een kabelboom voor achter ramen hebt
deze werkt compleet anders dan bij de voor ramen
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Marcelenshirley » 12 apr 2017, 05:35

Zooo dan, dat verklaard wel dat de kabels voor deuren errug lang zijn.
Dat had degene van wie ik ze gekocht heb wel mogen zeggen.zal zijn naam niet zeggen!!
Maar aan deze kabelboom heb ik dus niks?terwijl ik de hele set moest overnemen ondanks dat ik zelf al raammotors heb!!!!
Niet zo aardig.
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 12 apr 2017, 06:10

Ik vermoed het. Plaats anders eens foto's
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Marcelenshirley » 12 apr 2017, 06:14

Waar zou je het aan kunnen zien en als ie voor achter is heb ik er dan niks aan voov voor?
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 12 apr 2017, 08:41

De kleuren van de bedrading
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 12 apr 2017, 14:10

De kleuren weet ik zo niet uit mijn hoofd

Maar volgens mij gaan er na de achterdeuren 4 draden
De voordeuren gaan er 2 na toe
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 12 apr 2017, 16:52

Heb je het relais(zilver) en de 2 16amp zekering wel geplaatst?
Er gaat 1 stekker in de zekeringkast, en 1 massa aansluiting, en een draadje voor de verlichting.
Ook het diodeblokje hoort geplaatst te worden.

Losse kabelboom voor achterramen kan niet, als je achter elek. ramen hebt, heb je ze namelijk ook altijd voor.
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Marcelenshirley » 12 apr 2017, 18:03

Goedenavond Wiersma, heel erg bedankt voor je reactie!!
De verkoper vertelde mij dat de diode in de stekker zit,leek me al sterk.Zonder dit blokje gebeurt er dus niks?
De zekeringen zijn geplaatst en draden achter klokkespelook.massa heb ik van een makkelijker punt genomen.
Dat diodeblokje is daar nog aan te komen?
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 12 apr 2017, 20:09

volgens mij zin die nog leverbaar

@wiersma jawel die is er wel voor het later uitrusten van elektrische ramen achter
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 12 apr 2017, 21:56

Misschien heb je hier wat aan.
KAn je ook zien waar de diode stekker (comfort module F hoort in de zekeringkast)

Vaak is de diode doorgeslagen, ik heb die van mij ook een nieuwe diode in gesoldeerd.
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Bastian-Hoen » 15 apr 2017, 07:55

heb je al gekeken of stekker F er in zit dit is er 1 zonder draden
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Re: Aansluiting elektrische ramen

Berichtdoor Marcelenshirley » 15 apr 2017, 18:21

Jep, zit er niet in jammer genoeg!!!
Best ziek van omdat ik dacht dat het om een complete set ging en zoals ik al zei de raammotoren had ik al en nu dus dubbel!
Beetje rotgevoel bij deze aankoop, zeker na 20 x vragen of die diode stekker erbij zat.
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