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Rook : Diesel specifiek W201

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Het is nu 20 apr 2024, 06:41

Rook

Specifieke zaken omtrent het rijden op diesel, met de W201 kunnen hier geplaatst worden zodat we alle zaken omtrent diesel hier verzameld hebben staan.

Rook

Berichtdoor Peter Ouwehand » 25 nov 2013, 16:31

hoi,

tijdens de rit naar Italië om vakantie te vieren is me iets opgevallen.
na ong 600km bij een inhaal actie moest ik ff volgas zag ik een hele rookgordijn achter me en als ik op weer terug was op normale snelheid 130km zag ik niets en dit gebeurde telkens als ik ging inhalen ??????
en dit was ook het geval op de terug weg
hij start goed en verbruikt ook niet veel olie filters zijn in feb verwisseld ook de olie.
hij verbruikt gewoon tijdens de rit naar Italië kwam ik uit 1 op 20 ofzo en gewoon thuis 1 op 16.
wat kan het zijn ????

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Re: rook

Berichtdoor VmaX » 25 nov 2013, 16:55

Blauwe rook neem ik aan?
Ik heb dat ooit een keer gehad bij een motorfiets en daar waren de zuigerveren versleten. Net niet zover dat die (veel) olie ging gebruiken maar net genoeg om onder zware belasting (veel gas) olie langs de zuigers te persen de verbranding in.
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Re: rook

Berichtdoor VSNK » 25 nov 2013, 17:33

En dus olie verbruiken
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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor Peter Ouwehand » 25 nov 2013, 17:55

maar verbruikt bijna geen olie
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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor VmaX » 25 nov 2013, 18:01

Mijn ervaring is dat er maar een heul klein beetje olie in de verbranding hoeft te komen om al een flinke walm te veroorzaken. Als dat alleen gebeurt bij incidentele zware belasting blijft je olieverbruik laag.

Ik denk hier gewoon ff hardop.. :D
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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor WJ15129 » 25 nov 2013, 18:59

Dat is bij een benzine inderdaad meestal het geval.
Maar omdat het hier over een diesel gaat denk ik eerder in de richting van de afstelling van de inspuitpomp of de conditie van de injectoren.
Zou je eens door een dieselspecialist moeten laten nakijken.
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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor Kever » 25 nov 2013, 19:09

Is die rook nou blauw of zwart/grijs?

Het staat er in de openingspost niet bij, maar het maakt nogal uit.

Ik heb iets vergelijkbaars met mijn 2.5D: laatst een snelle rit naar Keulen (130 tot 170 km/u). Dan valt me op dat ik bij gelijkmatig rijden, ook als het hard gaat, geen rook in mijn spiegel zie (ook niet in de koplampen van achtervolgers). Maar wèl als ik volgas geef, of bij het fors optrekken na langzaam filerijden of stilstaan. Het is vrijwel zeker roet. Ik vind het moeilijk in te schatten en vraag me af of mijn achtervolgers het ook zien, of dat het alleen te zien is in het licht van de koplampen.

Overigens, mijn olieverbruik is nihil, km-stand bijna 250.000
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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor VmaX » 25 nov 2013, 19:16

En als de rook wit is heb je nog weer een heel ander probleem :shock:
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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » 25 nov 2013, 19:58

Na verloop van tijd en kilometers zijn de verstuivers niet meer zo precies is de timing van de pomp niet meer zo nauwkeurig door het oprekken van de distributieketting. De ouderwetsche diesel loopt er niet minder om maar rookt iets meer.
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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 26 nov 2013, 07:45

Rook is altijd een verbranding van te veel olie of brandstof.
Dus als er meer rook als normaal uit de uitlaat komt, houd je het oliepijl in de gaten.

Hoe je daar verder over denkt is erg persoonlijk denk ik, maar ik vind snelheden van 130 a 170 km p/u vragen om een pluimpje of misschien wel een hele grote pluim rook bij onze auto's. Wat dat betreft heb je zelf in de hand of je
hem heel wilt houden en veel of weinig rook uit je uitlaat wilt laten komen.

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Re: Rook

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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor Prometheus » 26 nov 2013, 09:20

Is normaal bij een lijnpomp die direct aangestuurd wordt door het gaspedaal. Als je het pedaal flink intrapt gooit de inspuitpomp de volle hoeveelheid diesel naar de verstuivers, die in verhouding met de hoeveelheid lucht die (afhankelijk van toerental) aangevoerd wordt niet (meer) in verhouding is. Gevolg: donkergrijze rook die nog een hoeveelheid onverbrande diesel bevat. Normaal gedrag van een conventionele dieselmotor.

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Re: Rook

Berichtdoor Peter Ouwehand » 27 nov 2013, 18:53

oke ruud dat is dan duidelijk, nou mag weer binnenkort komen bij DE hans.
heb weer dingen gekocht wat erop gesloopt moet worden hahaha klepstoters, gloeikaarsen, retour leiding, en hoop dat er nog wat tijd overblijft remslangen rem olie en deurvangers hahahaah wordt overnachten denk
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