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Nano (brandstofreductie)

Specifieke zaken omtrent het rijden op diesel, met de W201 kunnen hier geplaatst worden zodat we alle zaken omtrent diesel hier verzameld hebben staan.
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » 14 maart 2013, 20:15

@Hakie Het produkt heeft maximaal effect na drie tankbeurten, aldus de beschrijving. :lol:
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor MrStock » 14 maart 2013, 22:13

Dus je moet 2400km rijden voordat je effecten merkt? :shock:
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » 15 maart 2013, 06:59

Nee, maar maximale effect is na drie tankbeurten. Oplopend dus. Het beste resultaat is meetbaar vanaf drie tankbeurten :-)
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Hakie » 15 maart 2013, 07:06

En toch is het dan handig om te weten wat de cijfers zijn direct na de grote beurt. Dat moet het uitgangspunt zijn. Elke auto rijdt beter na een grote beurt. Die verbeterde waarden worden dan gemakkelijk toegekend aan de toevoeging. Je moet dus ook het effect van de grote beurt zelf weten om een objectief beeld te krijgen.
Ook: de buitentemperaturen gaan zeer binnenkort weer omhoog dus dan zal het verbruik ook weer gunstiger worden.


Maar nu wordt zelfs ik benieuwd naar het effect... :-)


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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » 15 maart 2013, 08:19

Klopt, en ook is het verbruik moeilijk meetbaar, wanneer je veel lange afstanden rijdt, afgewisseld met korte afstanden. Ook op dit forum verschillen de verbruikscijfers enorm. Ook de kilometerstand en de technische staat van de wagen, wordt dit bepaalt. Ik verwacht geen wonderen, maar ik vind dit geloofwaardiger dan 'smeermiddelen', als wynn's of zo...
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Mercedesguy » 15 maart 2013, 09:04

Op basis waarvan dan? Op die site wordt veel geclaimed maar nergens uit de doeken gedaan op basis waarvan.
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » 15 maart 2013, 09:27

Dit heeft andere eigenschappen dan concentionele olieen. Deze Nano-techniek zorgt voor minder weerstand en is vuilafstotend. Lees het onderstaande artikel maar eens over een toepassing van nanotechniek.

http://www.kijkmagazine.nl/nieuws/nanod ... in-de-olie
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor DS70 » 19 maart 2013, 11:44

Nanotech heeft nog meer leuks in petto voor de weggebruikers:

http://www.nextnature.net/2013/03/nanot ... n-minutes/
met het pedaal tot op het metaal
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » 19 maart 2013, 14:15

:-)
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Lutje Benz » 19 maart 2013, 16:40

Okay Ik ben wel razend benieuwd naar de ontwikkelingen!

Echter... Ik heb even snel een berekening gemaakt met de volgende waarden (zijn niet volledig accurate maar bij benadering okay)

verbruik zomers: 1l/17 km (ben een beetje een slowpoke)
uitgegaan van de 30.000km aanbieding (4 flacons 6 cyl)
dieselprijs €1,40

kosten zonder goedje: (30000 / 17) * 1,40 = 2470 euro

goedje zegt dat hij 12% goedkoper rijd (tot 20% maar dat is de boven grens. dus ga ik uit dat-ie 12% doet)

verbruik word dan zeg maar 1l /19 km
wederom 30.000 km (4 flacons 6 cyl (heb zelf een 5) = +/- 150 euro)
dieselprijs 1,40

kosten met goedje: (30000 / 19) * 1,40 = 2210 euro (maar kosten goedje is 150 euro) dus totaal 2360.

Wat wel een grote invloed op deze berekening kan zijn is dat de brandstofprijs hard oplopen in die 2 jaar tijd.
laat me weten wanneer ik een (denk)fout heb gemaakt.

Ik zit misschien op 15.000 tot 20.000 km per jaar. is het dan die 50 euro per jaar waard het risico te lopen dat het toch nog een niet ontdekt neven effect heeft? zou Mercedes anders zelf niet een dergelijke toevoeging aanbevelen? hoe zit het met garanties aan motoren als hij kaduuk gaat en men weet dat dat spul erin gezeten heeft?
ik begrijp dat tuv het heeft getest.

net ff snel met 20% gedaan, dat geeft mij een voordeel van 100 euro op jaar basis... meh ik geloof niet dat ik dat risico wil lopen. misschien dat het interresant word als je verschrikkelijk veel kilometers maakt.

Maar in ieder geval ben ik razend benieuwd naar de uitkomst van deze test! :D

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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor HaicoDuinkerken » 19 maart 2013, 16:43

Wuhaha, nou daar wil ik die rommel niet voor in de auto hebben hoor :P
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Lutje Benz » 19 maart 2013, 16:48

Ja, ik begin bijna te denken dat ik ergens een rekenfout moet hebben zitten, aangezien ze roepen dat er wel 700 euro per jaar bespaard kan worden. ik kom op 20% op een besparing van 270 euro op 30000km bij gelijke brandstofkosten. :?
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Fietsensloper » 19 maart 2013, 17:15

Nou met mn bestelbus waarmee ik 50000 per jaar rijd is het alsnog wel interessant hoor ;)
Als ik dan 1 op 14 ga rijden ipv 1 op 12 scheelt dat toch wel een boel hoor ;)
50000 / 12 = 4166 Liter diesel
50000 / 14 = 3571 Liter diesel

Pak je dan de dieselprijs van €1.50:
4166 X €1.50 = €6249,-
3571 X €1.50 = €5356.50

Besparing: €6249 - €5356.50 = €892.50

Daar gaat dan 2 X €97,- vanaf voor de flacons die voor 30000 werken. Kom je dus uit op: €892.50 - €194,- = €698.50

Totale besparing is dus inderdaad €700,- bij 50000KM op jaarbasis met een diesel.

En er staat trouwens op de site: Gebruik "GreenPower" NanoProtector En Ontdek Hoe Je 12-20% Kunt Besparen Op je Brandstof. Dus 700 besparen OP DE BRANDSTOF, daarbij dus niet de investering meegeteld van de flacons.
*Geld lijkt op vet. Van beide is er genoeg, maar altijd op de verkeerde plaatsen :|
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » 19 maart 2013, 19:45

Vooropgesteld ben ik van nature sceptisch, maar desondanks ben ik ook gevoelig voor dit soort innovaties. Proberen vind ik ook gewoon 'leuk'. Het verminderde verbruik is juist bij oudere auto te verwachten, is mijn overtuiging. Ook het aspect duurzaamheid speelt een rol en is moeilijk te vergelijken. Vergelijkbare produkten zijn er niet (of weinig). Kortom: vergelijken is moeilijk. De momenteel zo bekritiseerde verbruiktest die wordt gehanteerd door onze overheid, zou ideaal zijn voor het testen van dit product. Gelijke omstandigheden.
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Lutje Benz » 19 maart 2013, 20:02

Mijn berekening was natuurlijk puur theoretisch, wellicht schilt het veel meer op oude auto's inderdaad. Ik volg dit topic dan ook met grote interesse.

Echter met de huidige percenten die opgegeven zijn, zie ik voor mij persoonlijk niet in om het te proberen en de risico's ervoor te lopen. Als je erg veel kilometers maakt, zoals Fietsensloper, dan is het inderdaad aantrekkelijker.

www.meerkilometers.com <---- heeft hier iemand al eens na gekeken ?
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Orion » 19 maart 2013, 20:21

Heb zelf als eens een waterstofreactor gebouwd en in de wagen gehad. Maar is allemaal maar marginaal. De sets die te koop zijn op het WWW zijn allemaal maar fanta qua percentage's. Tja, ik reed wat zuiniger. Maar dat weegt niet op tegen de kosten van het apparaat. Je haalt meer uit je rechter voet pedaal. Maar was een interresant experiment.

Hieronder de reactor, de foto's van in de auto moet ik gaan zoeken.
Bovenin zit alles gevuld met waterstof.

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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Orion » 19 maart 2013, 20:33

Heb ze gevonden. De dunne buis is de diffusor, van hieruit ging het waterstof via een droger naar de inlaat.

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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Bassje » 19 maart 2013, 21:33

Dat lijkt het lab van Semafoor wel!
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor Nico190E » 19 maart 2013, 21:50

En zo was er ook TSL :shock:

Verminderd de inwendige weerstand van draaiende delen in het motorblok :?
Kost ± 60 Euro voor 'n half litertje, zal wel prima spul zijn voor nieuwe motoren.

Maar voor oudere wat minder, het motorblok van m'n K1100rs ging meer olie gebruiken.
Gebruikte het eerst 'n derde liter olie op 1000km, na TSL was het iedere tankbeurd ( 300 km ) :woohoo:

Het koste me daarna 1100 Euro om het blok gewisseld te krijgen :sick:

mvg Nico
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Re: Nano (brandstofreductie)

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » 12 apr 2013, 12:51

De eerste resultaten; de auto loopt inderdaad erg mooi. Daarover valt niet te twisten. Heerlijk dieselen...
Qua verbruik heb ik na de eerste tankbeurt ruim 70 km meer afgelegd en dat is veelbelovend. :o
Over een week of twee weet ik het definitieve resultaat...
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