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Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars : LPG Specifiek W201

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Het is nu 19 apr 2024, 09:24

Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Specifieke zaken omtrent het rijden op LPG kunnen hier geplaatst worden zodat we alles over LPG hier verzameld hebben staan.

Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Denman1710 » 05 maart 2011, 09:45

Is het jullie bekend?
Heeft iemand een onderdeelnummer?
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Bassje » 05 maart 2011, 14:56

Zou dit geen zelf fabricaat van iemand zijn? Kan mij niet herinneren dat ik deze schakelaar ooit gezien heb.
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Ruub-ster » 09 maart 2011, 18:06

Heeft Mercedes ooit heftrucks gebouwd? op heftrucks kom ik nog wel eens knopje tegen waar je over kunt schakelen van gas naar benzine namelijk..

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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » 09 maart 2011, 18:11

Aan het houtdessin en de stijl van de knopjes komen die uit een nieuwer type (W202 of W210 o.i.d.). Passen die 1 op 1 in de W201 framepjes?
Der letzte Mercedes, dem die Träume der Bundesrepublik noch ins Blech gepresst waren: groß, schwer, mit viel Chrom außen und einem Innenraum, der immer ein wenig nach deutschem Wohnzimmer aussah und roch, nach Holz und Leder und Sonntagsbraten
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Sjappo » 12 maart 2011, 22:58

Als je goed kijkt lijkt het alsof de Lpg-tekentjes met een stickertje op het knopje geplakt zijn (dat zwarte rondje), dus ik denk dat iemand zelf heeft zitten knutselen (die andere knopjes hebben dat niet)
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Colja2002 » 13 maart 2011, 13:29

of achter die rondjes zitten lampjes zou ook nog kunnen
voor reparatie,s aan iphone / ipod en nintendo bent u bij mij aan het goede adress
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Silver2.3 » 04 jun 2012, 13:33

Je komt hem toch wel wat vaker tegen.

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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Orion » 04 jun 2012, 13:45

Zou zón schakelaar toch wel graag in mijn bezit hebben.
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Bassje » 04 jun 2012, 23:25

Op de een of andere manier zou je dan achter het onderdeelnummer moeten komen.
Niemand die dat 'toevallig' even weet?
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Silver2.3 » 05 jun 2012, 15:56

Foto naar MB sturen en kijken of daar iemand het weet ?
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Danny280 » 29 jun 2012, 22:15

Hallo,

Heb me maar ffe aangemeld om dat ik anders niet kan reageren,Kwam dit draadje tegen zoekend naar onderdeeltjes voor de bewuste schakelaar. en wilde jullie het antwoord niet onthouden.

Rijdt zelf een 126 280SE en ben actief op het W126 forum. En.... ja ik heb zo n schakelaar en dus ook het nr.
Kwam hem ooit eens tegen op mp.er is alleen geen stopkontaktje bij.heb op verschillende manieren geprobeert om deze erbij te krijgen,tot nu toe lukt dat niet helaas.

Er staan twee nummers op te weten:
SWF501.128 en 124 820 12 10 voor het laatste nr staat het merscedes teken. moet wel orgineel zijn zou je denken :o

Mocht nu iemand wel verder komen laat het mij dan ook ff weten!

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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Orion » 29 jun 2012, 23:24

Hoi Danny,

Leuk dat je het meld hier. Maar in EPC is hij niet te vinden, op het internet tot op heden ook niet.
Als je wat meer mocht weten hoor ik het graag.
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Danny280 » 29 jun 2012, 23:59

Dat wist ik inmiddels, heb het geprobeert via stern zeist.maar gaat niet lukken.
Mn idee voorlopig is om te kijken voor een ander stekkertje en die ombouwen/solderen naar een bruikbare versie.

Winter klusje denk ik.
Mischien komt er toch nog wat uit?
Ze zijn gemaakt, thats fore sure en weldegelijk mb.

t is maar goed dat we handig zijn.
Wel grappig om te zien/ lezen dat dit fenomeen meer mensen bezig houdt!
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Orion » 30 jun 2012, 07:23

Heb dit al eens eerder gezocht, maar nu had ik een nummer. Maar wellicht dat het www het in de toekomst in een of ander maf oord wordt aangeboden.

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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Vlim » 30 jun 2012, 11:43

Ik betwijfel of het om een originele MB-schakelaar (in deze uitvoering) gaat.

Ik vermoed dat een LPG-inbouwer deze zelf heeft geproduceerd, gebruik makend van een bestaand schakelaartype (hij doet me denken aan een MB-antenneschakelaar, of een MB-airco schakelaar).

Mercedes-Benz Nederland liet natuurlijk ook al bij aflevering in Nederland auto's ombouwen naar LPG. Misschien dat één van de inbouwers dit leuke gadget heeft verzonnen.
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Danny280 » 30 jun 2012, 18:43

Niet om het beter te weten hoor vlim, maar zo ziet ie er niet uit. geknutseld bedoel ik dan :?
wie het weet mag t zeggen, feit is: ik wilde er graag zo 1 .ik heb er 1 gevonden en die komt er in :silly: .

Maakt het mooi compleet in mijn beleving.I am a happy man.
Zal een foto maken als t zover is.

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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor EmielW201 » 01 jul 2012, 17:00

Als je dan een originele LPG schakelaar hebt, dan zou je ook de originele benzine meter voor LPG willen gebruiken. Bij G3 installaties in moderne autos werkt dat wel zo.
Voor de W201 kon ik nergens vinden om ook voor LPG ook de originele benzine meter te gebruiken. De meter moet dan ook omschakelen met overschakelen LPG<->benzine.
Nu heb ik zelf uitgezocht of dit voor de W201 zo te maken is en misschien gaat dit vrij eenvoudig.

Het enige min punt is dat je niet direct ziet hoeveel benzine er nog in de tank zit. Hiervoor zou je dan moeten omschakelen naar benzine. Maar je hebt ook nog het waarschuwings lampje dat de benzine bijna op is. Dus als je dat in de gaten houd dan lijkt mij dat niet zo'n probleem.

De LPG tank zender is meestal 0-90 Ohm of 0-95 Ohm (zie onderste afbeelding). Voor het gemak ben ik van 0-90 Ohm uitgegaan.
Benzinetank zender van W201 is 1.9-78.3 Ohm. (1.9 Ohm is tank vol en 78.3 is tank leeg)

De LPG tankzender wordt net als de benzinetank zender aan 1 kant aan massa aangesloten.
Als de vol en leeg weerstand van de LPG tank zender overeenkomt met die van de benzinetank zender dan zou je al een redelijk goede indicatie hebben op de originele benzine meter. Voor een nauwkeuringere indicatie zou parallel over de LPG tankzender een weerstand van 600 Ohm gezet moeten worden (R total= 1 / (1/90 + 1/600)=78,26 Ohm).

Wie kan mij vertellen wat de vol/leeg weerstand is van de LPG tank zender?
Dus is 90 Ohm vol of leeg?
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Danny280 » 04 jul 2012, 10:26

Hallo Emile,

Dat zou opzich leuk zijn allemaal. heb er al eens naar gekenen en las toen ook iets over een tankfopper ofzo. en die was er dan weer niet voor deze auto s??

Ben best een handig kereltje maar stroom/ draadjes en dergelijke zaken zijn echt niet mijn ding,dus dat zal um wel niet gaan worden denk ik.
Voor al het elek. heb ik al hulp nodig,dus hou ik het hier maar bij.

Ik ben al happy met mn schakelaar ;)

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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor EmielW201 » 06 jul 2012, 18:07

Ik ben eruit.

Voor de weerstandswaarde van de LPG tank zender (vol/leeg) heb ik een gasboer gevraagd maar dit wist het ook niet.
Uiteindelijk op internet gevonden dat de LPG tank zender zoals afgebeeld bij een volle tank een weerstand van 90 Ohm heeft en 0 Ohm als de tank leeg is. Net verkeerd om dus voor de originele tankmeter.

Maar ik heb ook gevonden dat dit kan worden opgelost door de LPG tank zender zelf. (tenminste met deze uitvoering)
Je kunt de weerstandswaarde hiervan omkeren en zelfs de weerstandswaarde aanpassen op de originele tankmeter.
Ik zal een LPG tank zender op de kop tikken en een How-to maken.
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Re: Mercedes heeft originele LPG schakelaars

Berichtdoor Danny280 » 17 jul 2012, 21:58

Goed b zig.

wacht het ffe af. suc 6 iig :D
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