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Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs. : Diesel specifiek W201

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Het is nu 29 maart 2024, 15:47

Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Specifieke zaken omtrent het rijden op diesel, met de W201 kunnen hier geplaatst worden zodat we alle zaken omtrent diesel hier verzameld hebben staan.

Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Lolke01 » 09 apr 2012, 19:54

Hallo beste mensen,

Ik heb sinds kort een klein probleempje. Er lekt lucht bij de achterste verstuiver waar hij in de cilinderkop zit langs.
Bij stationair toerental hoor je hem echt puffen en je voelt ook lucht ontsnappen. Als je het toerental wat opvoert
is het puffen minder luid maar voel je het nog wel en gaat met het toerental mee.
Is de 'pakking' van de verstuiver in de cilinderkop lek??? Hoe kun je zoiets repareren? Gewoon nog wat aandraaien??
Er lekt gelukkig geen diesel naar buiten maar het is wel een beetje smerig rond deze verstuiver.
We hebben het over een 2.0 diesel blok code 601. Tellerstand 220.000km bwj 1989.
Hij rijdt verder prima en verbruikt ook niet meer of zo.

Ik hoor het wel. :D

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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 09 apr 2012, 20:27

Onder je verstuiver zit een brandplaatje. Kost iets van € 1,50 en is een makkelijke klus.
Je hebt echter wel een special dop nodig om de verstuiver eruit te draaien. Bij mij lukte het echter ook met een normale dop die ruim viel.
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Lolke01 » 09 apr 2012, 20:46

Fryslân boppe!! :D :D

Hallo Wiersma, bedankt voor de tip. Ga morgen even bij de dealer langs om zo'n plaatje te halen.
Een kameraad van mij is monteur en heeft vast wel zo'n speciale dop voor de/montage van de verstuiver.

Groeten ût Stiens. :mrgreen:

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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor KeesenMarie » 10 apr 2012, 18:46

Wiersma heeft gelijk even een nieuw brandplaatje monteren en hij is weer top.
Vroeger maakten wij die brand plaatjes wel eens wit heet met een brander en stopten ze er dan weer tussen,succes verzekert.
Een vriend van mij kwam eens bij een mercedus garage met dezelfde klacht, zijden ze daar dat de kop er af moest,wat een geluk dat we nu een forum hebben.
vr gr keesenmarie.
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Lolke01 » 10 apr 2012, 20:28

Helaas, helaas.........er zit een gloednieuw origineel brandplaatje in maar hij lekt nog steeds.
Hij lekt tussen de bus waar de verstuiver inzit en de cilinderkop.
Dus. :(
Ik ga morgen even bij een revisiebedrijf bij ons in de buurt langs. Deze meneer heeft veel met oudere Mercedes motoren gesleuteld dus we horen eens of hij de oorzaak ook weet. Vast wel. Ik ben benieuwd.

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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 10 apr 2012, 22:09

Dat is de ring die de voorkamer vastzet. Dat kan een kwestie zijn om die er uit te halen en schoon te maken en weer op de juiste nm vast te zetten. Echter hier heb je wel speciale gereedschap voor nodig. Ik vermoed dat jij de kartelachtige dop nodig hebt.

In mijn logboek kan je zien dat ik die van mij er ook uit heb. Ik heb de oude type nog met 2 groeven.
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Lolke01 » 11 apr 2012, 01:05

Hallo Wiersma,
Dat betekend dat de cilinderkop er niet af hoeft? :D
Daar heb ik namelijk helemaal geen zin in.......Het zou heeeeel mooi zijn als dit met de kop gemonteerd en wel lukt. Maar hij blaast wel erg hoor.
Ik hoor het morgen wel. Jij bedankt voor jou reactie.

Ik kan jou naam trouwens niet vinden bij Logboek, wel bij Projecten. Er zit bij mij een afdichtingsrubber over de voorkamermoer heen dus ik kan niet zien hoe de bus los moet.
Bekijk de foto's maar eens. Hij lekt bij het afdichtrubber van de voorkamermoer en de cilinderkop. Het vettige eromheen komt van alle vloeistoffen die we er opgespoten hebben om het lek op te sporen.

Update: De experts zijn er nog niet uit. Komt nooit voor, heb ik nog nooit gezien zijn de reacties........ Vanavond wat olie op het afdichttingsrubber van de sluitmoer voor de voorkamer gespoten en die olie spoot alle kanten uit. Dus ik ben er wel uit. De voorkamer is kapot of de afstuitmoer. Hoe dat kan is de grote vraag.
Afijn, werk aan de winkel.

Als iemand tips en trucs weet......ik hoor het graag, zoals waar kan ik zo'n dop voor de sluitmoer vinden/lenen?????

Groeten Lolke. :)
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Lolke01 » 30 apr 2012, 23:17

Ik heb inmiddels een werkplaats CD op de kop getikt. Is wel duitstalig. :)
Er zit een vertaal programmaaatje op mijn computer dus dat moet lukken. Op de CD schrijven ze dat de cilinderkop er niet af hoeft. :D :D Ik moet wel een dop kopen waar Wiersma het ook al over had. Is van midlock ben ik achter gekomen en kan dus bij Ype Kramer in Leeuwarden besteld worden. Ook een trekker om de voorkamer er uit te trekken maar een normale slagtrekker lukt ook wel heb ik gehoord.
Ga er binnenkort mee aan de slag.

Als iemand nog tips heeft?

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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Prometheus » 01 mei 2012, 07:47

Op deze staat een how-to om een injectorlekkage te verhelpen.
Er staan sowieso een massa interessante :idea:

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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor KeesenMarie » 22 mei 2012, 18:16

Is is je lekkage verholpen?
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Knapen » 22 mei 2012, 21:47

Kent Bergsma is echt mijn held :D , wat die man allemaal doet 8-)
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Lolke01 » 22 mei 2012, 22:13

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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Bassje » 22 mei 2012, 22:52

Echt een leuk busje man! Ziet er erg netjes uit.
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor KeesenMarie » 23 mei 2012, 18:20

Een zeer mooie bus , zo te zien.
Zo zie je zu niet zoveel.
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Lolke01 » 26 mei 2012, 21:16

Hallo Bassje en Kees-Marie, hartstikke bedankt voor jullie leuke reactie.
Wij staan nu in Limburg op de camping Mooi Bemelen vlakbij Valkenburg. Er is hier een VW-meeting met allemaal Busjes en Kevers enzo. Schitterend mooi weer, kan niet beter, lekker zonnen en barbequen. Wat wil je nog meer.

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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Bassje » 27 mei 2012, 15:58

Ik kwam gisteren aan het einde van de middag al een paar mooie oude Kevers tegen op de A16 richting Rotterdam. Misschien mensen die weer terug gingen?
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Lolke01 » 03 jun 2012, 14:18

Ik heb de dop voor het verwijderen van de moer die de voorkamer opsluit al binnen.
Besteld bij Ype Kramer in Leeuwarden, Midlock 219V.
Heb het komende week niet aan tijd maar de week erna gaan we hiermee aan de slag.
Wordt vervolgd.

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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Alixoft » 04 jun 2012, 09:37

Moet je dat inderdaad daar mee doen? Vreemd, ik dacht echt dat je een dopsleutel nodig had waar 2 tanden onderaan uitsteken.

Zie plaatje hieronder van een voorkamer (waar het brandplaatje in ligt) van een OM617 motor. Ik heb het over die twee inkepingen links en rechts van het gat. Daarnaast zitten de voorkamers meestal ERG vast, en zijn ze met speciaal gereedschap. Lijkt op een lange schroevendraaier met een zwaar los extra handvat eraan waarmee je (als de schroevendraaier vastgeschroefd is in de voorkamer) er uit getikt kan worden.
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 04 jun 2012, 10:29

Dat klopt ali, alleen de nieuwe blokken met de paar pk meer hebben een veelkartel dop gekregen in plaats die 2 inkepingen.
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Re: Lucht puft bij verstuiver langs.

Berichtdoor Alixoft » 04 jun 2012, 12:45

Geinig! Weer wat geleerd vandaag.

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