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Klepstoters OM601 : Diesel specifiek W201

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Klepstoters OM601

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Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor jorivanloon » 03 feb 2017, 12:12

Beste forumleden,

Het valt me op dat mijn motor af en toe tikt...
Dit komt voornamelijk voor wanneer het blok al warm wordt (40-85 graden) maar de olie nog koud is.
Ook wanneer je verder 'door trekt' verdwijnt het geluid (hogere oliedruk).
Zowel de symptomen als het ritme van het geluid geven mij het vermoeden dat het om een klepstoter gaat.
De olie die er nu in zit is semi-synth 10W-40. Dit lijkt me dun genoeg voor winterse omstandigheden.
Ik vermoed dus dat ik de klepstoters aan het vervangen kom.
Vandaar een drietal vragen:

- Is het (zoals gewoonlijk) verstandig om ze alle acht te vervangen?
- Welk merk raden jullie aan? Ik heb de keuze uit Febi (automaterialen) en INA (taxiteile).
- Wanneer die nokkenas er toch uit ligt... is het verstandig om de klepseals mee te nemen?
(je komt er nog al lastig bij... Dit had ik eigenlijk moeten doen toen de kop er af lag :doh: )

Los van een tikje bij semi-koude motor loopt die olieboot nog heerlijk :D
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Gombal » 03 feb 2017, 15:12

Qua klepstoters zou ik Ina nemen.
Als je even op Ina 420 0001 10 googled kun je ze ook nog een stuk voordeliger krijgen, vanaf € 8,00 het stuk ipv € 14,95. ;)
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Kever » 03 feb 2017, 17:51

Mijn motor doet dat ook af en toe, sinds ik hem bij 149.000 km aanschafte. Ik ben nu 180.000 km verder en hij doet het nog steeds. Erger wordt het niet. Het schijnt iets met de constructie van de eerste generatie klepstoters te maken te hebben. De nieuwere hebben een gaatje waardoor de oliestroom anders verloopt.
Ik heb me laten vertellen dat het misschien niet zo mooi klinkt maar dat het absoluut geen kwaad kan. Ik maak me er dus niet druk meer om.

Overigens heb ik ook met die olie geëxperimenteerd. Het maakte niks uit, dus ik gebruik sindsdien weer de iets dikkere, die origineel ook is voorgeschreven, 15W40, en dat gaat prima. Ik verbeeld me soms zelfs dat hij daarop nog iets rustiger draait. Nog voordeliger ook.
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Peter Ouwehand » 03 feb 2017, 19:09

Ik had er twee jaar geleden ook last van heb ze gewoon bij taxiteile besteld en ze zijn alle 8 vervangen.
Nu 45000 km verder nog steeds stil voor een diesel dan hahahaha.
En over de olie gewoon semi 10w 40 die wissel ik om de 15000 ongeveer maar die is gewoon goed.
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Harm2 » 04 feb 2017, 00:11

Allemaal vervangen. Bij 1 volgt de rest. Ook klepseals, je bent er toch mee bezig. Merk weet ik niet.
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » 04 feb 2017, 12:04

Is er aanleiding om de klepseals te vervangen? Vaak leveren die geen probleem op bij de dieselmotoren. Alleen bij een verhoogd olieverbruik zou ik vervanging daarvan overwegen.
Der letzte Mercedes, dem die Träume der Bundesrepublik noch ins Blech gepresst waren: groß, schwer, mit viel Chrom außen und einem Innenraum, der immer ein wenig nach deutschem Wohnzimmer aussah und roch, nach Holz und Leder und Sonntagsbraten
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor jorivanloon » 06 feb 2017, 12:27

Dank voor de reacties!

Na de APK gaat er inderdaad weer de voorgeschreven 15W-40 olie in.
Nu ik zowel hier als bij een Bosch monteur gehoord heb dat t niet zo veel kwaad kan stel ik vervangen nog even uit.
Mooi klusje voor de komende herfst periode denk ik zo. Tegen die tijd ga ik op zoek naar een setje van INA.

Olie verbruiken doet ie amper (minder dan een liter op 10.000 km). Dus van de klepseals blijf ik ook af.
16-Februari mogen we weer voor de APK, dus komende week zelf alles maar weer eens nalopen.
Zo'n APK voelt toch altijd alsof je een examen moet gaan maken :think:
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » 06 feb 2017, 22:24

15W40 is wel wat aan de dikke kant voor de OM60x. Mercedes-Benz schrijft zelf 5W40 voor.
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor jorivanloon » 07 feb 2017, 13:42

In dat geval houd ik het bij de 10W-40 die er nu ook in zit.
Zonet eerst maar een setje wiellagers besteld...
We hoeven ons in ieder geval niet te vervelen met onze auto's :whistle:
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor SetaniLea » 07 feb 2017, 15:10

Ik gebruik gewoon klassieke olie van Shell HX5. ik heb al 70 000kms gereden sinds aanschaf, en heb niks te klagen met 15w40. Om de 6 maand oftewel 8500km verwissel ik alles, om een fris blok te blijven behouden.
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Prometheus » 08 feb 2017, 08:51

is idd 10W40 MB spec 229.1

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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor jorivanloon » 08 feb 2017, 13:51

Die MB spec 229.1 staat op ontzettend veel olieën, van Lidl tot Castrol.
Ik wil hier absoluut de heilige discussie niet te hard aanwakkeren, maar...
Bij mij gaat er vrolijk 10W-40 olie van een goedkoper merk in, maar wel keurig op tijd verversen.
De olieën van vandaag zijn sowiso al beter dan wat er 30 jaar geleden op de markt was.
Maar, net zoals met religie, het staat iedereen natuurlijk vrij om, naar gelang het budget, de olie te kopen waar men zich prettig bij voelt :pray:
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Prometheus » 08 feb 2017, 15:08

En vaak is de 'goedkope' van prima :lol:

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Re: Klepstoters OM601

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Mercedes-Benz schrijft 5W40 voor alles van onder de -25C tot boven de +30C voor:

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10W40 kan natuurlijk ook prima en is een stuk goedkoper dan 5W40, maar liever niet bij meer dan 25 graden onder nul.
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor jorivanloon » 09 feb 2017, 18:53

Leuke test is dat prometheus!

En ik houd t bij 10W-40. Die ene keer dat het hier in Nederland eens 15 graden vriest...
-25 heb ik hier in ieder geval nog nooit meegemaakt.
En als dat het hier wel zo hard gaat vriezen dan wordt het tijd voor een Webasto :D
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Re: Klepstoters OM601

Berichtdoor Lutje Benz » 10 feb 2017, 04:38

Die INA's werken prima en hebben ook die upgrade erin zitten (het olie gaatje zit net iets anders). zitten er nu alweer een 60.000km in en geen rammeltje.

Ik geloof dat er ook INA's uitkwamen.

Ik heb hier ergens een how-to gemaakt over het vervangen van de hydraulische klepstoters.
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