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Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaatbak

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 27 jan 2021, 18:39

Goedenavond forumleden,

De hardschijf (bij automaatbak) was aan vervanging toe. Met goede moed begonnen maar al snel werd het minder leuk, ik heb namelijk vijf maal(!) de verkeerde hardyschijf besteld/ontvangen. Toen ging er een lampje bij mij branden: Zit de originele automaatbak er wel onder? Dit was niet het geval. Origineel zou ik de bak met transmissiecode 722400 12 457965 onder mijn 2.0 benzine moeten hebben. Echter kwam ik onder mijn auto de automaakbak met transmissiecode 2012 710 101 tegen. Deze behoort volgens mij tot een 2.5 turbo diesel (correct me if I'm wrong). Dit verklaart natuurlijk ook waarom ik steeds de verkeerde hardyschijf geleverd heb gekregen. Ik heb me laten vertellen dat het verwisselen van de bak wel geregeld voorkwam aangezien de dieselbakken beter en prettiger zouden schakelen.

Alle gekheid op een stokje, nu zit ik dus met het probleem dat ik niet weet welke hardyschijf ik moet bestellen. Ik weet namelijk niet 100% zeker of de automaatbak met transmissiecode 2012 710 101 bij een 2.5TD hoort, wat dus betekent dat ik ook niet weet naar welke schijf ik moet zoeken. Er staat helaas geen onderdeelnummer op de hardyschijf die eronderuit is gekomen.

De vraag is: wie kan mij helpen? Is er toevallig iemand met een 2.5TD die mij kan vertellen of de transmissiecode 2012 710 101 juist is voor een 2.5TD, of heeft iemand tips hoe ik erachter kan komen welk hardyschijf de juiste is.

Op de bijgevoegde foto's is te zien welke schijf eronder zat. Deze zou ik dus moeten hebben.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor lwa250 » 27 jan 2021, 19:08

Meet op de bak de hart-hart afstand zoals op de foto, niet van de hardy. Waarschijnlijk moet je er een met 80 mm afstand ahebben als ik naar de foto kijk maar meten = weten
Ik ben op zoek naar een 190E 2.3-16
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 27 jan 2021, 20:44

Ja, dit is ook 80mm. Maar dan weet ik nog steeds niet welke hardyschijf ik moet hebben. En welke de juiste is bij dat baknummer. Er zijn tientallen verschillende te vinden op internet.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Bassje » 28 jan 2021, 10:34

Kun je niet naar de dealer gaan met die bakcode die je hebt opgeschreven en de onderdelenman daar de juiste hardyschijf laten opzoeken, of denk ik nu te simpel?
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 28 jan 2021, 11:33

Zeker kan dat. Wilde eerst even hier kijken of iemand het wist. Waarom? Heb bij de dealer een van die vijf hardyschijven besteld, en deze liggen niet op voorraad dus moeten ze die bestellen. En schijnbaar werkt het bij Smeets Mercedes zo dat je bestelde artikelen niet kunt retourneren. Geluk bij een ongeluk dat de geleverde schijf van de dealer enkele bouten en moertjes mistte, waardoor ik deze gelukkig toch kon retourneren. Dit is de reden waarom ik eerst hier eens wilde vragen. Een hardyschijf bij de dealer kost al snel 90eu. Als ik straks weer de verkeerde zou hebben dan zou het jammer zijn van die 90eu.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor MBreed » 28 jan 2021, 12:11

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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 28 jan 2021, 13:03

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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor MBreed » 28 jan 2021, 13:21

Ik bergijp dat er een 722.400 bak onder jouw auto hoort, maar het nummer dat je opgeeft van wat er nú onder zit "2012 710 101", is geen compleet baknummer. Dus ik heb gedacht dat daar nog 7224 voor moest, als in

722420 12 710101

En dat is een bak van een 1.8. Het kan ook een compleet ander nummer zijn, dus je zou toch nog eens naar de bak moeten kijken of je een nummer kan vinden dat met 722 begint.

EDIT: Ik zit nog eens naar dat nummer te kijken. Moet dit een onderdeelnummer voorstellen?? 2012 710 101?
Dat zou dan zo geschreven moeten worden: 201 271 01 01 en dat is een gietnummer, dus heb je helaas niets aan. Meestal staat het baknummer net boven het oliecarter aan de zijkant van de bak in een gladgeslepen stuk.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 28 jan 2021, 23:55

Bedankt voor je reactie. Vond het al een vreemd nummer maar kreeg dit doorgestuurd van diegene waar mijn auto op de brug staat. Ik zal zelf nog eens kijken als ik daar kom. Nu je het zegt, 201 2710101 lijkt inderdaad op een onderdeelnummer. Ik ga het nakijken, bedankt.

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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 07 sep 2021, 11:37

Na een te lange tijd afstuderen heb ik nu eindelijk vakantie en tijd gehad om het baknummer te controleren. Het baknummer dat ik op de papieren heb staan (722400 12 457965) komt niet overeen met het baknummer dat ik onder de auto aantref (722 400 02 869963). Misschien is dit de oorzaak van de vele hardyschijven die verkeerd besteld zijn. Het gehele nummer dat ik op de bak aantrof staat op de foto. Dit nummer begint dan ook met 124, van de W124. Nu weet ik dat veel onderdelen van de W124 ook gebruikt werden in de W201 tijdens productie. Echter denk ikzelf dat er een keer een andere automaatbak onder is gekomen aangezien het nummer op de bak dus niet overeenkomt met het nummer op de papieren. Heeft iemand een idee hoe ik nu erachter kan komen welke hardyschijf ik nodig heb?
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor MBreed » 07 sep 2021, 16:02

Kijk met dat baknummer kunnen we wat. Die komt onder een 190E 2.0 vandaan van 1990 met chassisnummer

WDB2010241F700951
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 07 sep 2021, 23:06

Super bedankt Max! Dan kan ik met dat chassisnummer naar de dealer en dan zou het goed moeten komen.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor MBreed » 08 sep 2021, 08:10

Ja dat zou wel moeten. Als ik op dit chassisnummer uitzoek kom ik uit op A 124 411 04 15 02, daar zitten origineel geen bouten meer bij in. Wat belachelijk is, want hij kost al meer dan 200€.

Ik weet niet welk nummer jij de laatste keer gehad hebt, maar ik gok dat dat A 124 410 00 15 geweest is.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 08 sep 2021, 09:20

Sow, wat een bedrag. De vorige die ik besteld had was inderdaad A124 410 00 15 voor een prijs van €90 incl BTW en incl. bouten. Wat een verschil zeg.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 08 sep 2021, 10:38

Max, het onderdeelnummer (A 124 411 04 15 02) dat jij doorgaf was niet bekend bij de Mercedes dealer. Als reactie stuurt de magazijnman mij dit onderdeelnummer door: A2024101215, en zegt dat deze geldig is voor beide chassisnummers, mijn eigen plus die wat jij doorgaf (WDB2010241F700951). Beetje vreemd lijkt me dat, maarja. Het nadeel is dat ik de hardyschijf bij de dealer niet retour kan doen.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor MBreed » 08 sep 2021, 11:03

Ik kan die schijf gewoon bestellen hoor. De magazijnman heeft niet goed gekeken. De A 202 410 12 15 is ten eerste voor een vroegere W201, en niet voor het chassisnummer van de donor en ten tweede is het de taxi-uitvoering. Harder.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor MBreed » 08 sep 2021, 11:06

Kijk in de catalogus hoort A 124 410 06 15 op de donorwagen, maar die is vervangen door het eerste nummer in groen, dat is dat nummer dat ik opgaf en een geldig bestelnummer. Vanaf chassisnummer A 442136 en F 616732. Daar valt de donor onder, want dat is F 700951
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 08 sep 2021, 11:11

Alweer super bedankt voor je tijd en moeite, ik ga weer met de dealer contact opnemen.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 08 sep 2021, 11:49

Ik zag dat het nummer van de donorwagen 10 cijfers heeft en het nieuwe, eerste groene nummer 12. Misschien dat ze het bij de dealer daarom niet kunnen vinden. Maar ik heb eens even een kijkje op internet genomen, aangezien ik het daar wel kan retourneren. Dan zou de schijf op de foto in theorie moeten passen.
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Re: Hulp gezocht! Verkeerde hardyschijf door andere automaat

Berichtdoor MBreed » 08 sep 2021, 11:57

02 is een fabrikagetoevoeging. Als ze dat bij de dealer die jij gebeld hebt niet kunnen vinden, zijn het een stelletje kneuzen. Ik heb er geen ander antwoord voor. Het systeem waar ik je screenshots van gestuurd heb, is het systeem van Mercedes-Benz zelf.

Je kan hem net zo goed van FEBI bestellen inderdaad. Scheelt een hoop geld en grote kans dat het dezelfde is.
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