[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 678: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 678: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 678: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 678: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 678: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 678: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 678: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4827: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3904)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4829: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3904)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4830: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3904)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4831: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3904)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen : Techniek W201

W201Club.nl

Alles over de Mercedes W201

Het is nu 25 apr 2024, 00:01

Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen

Alle techniek (mechanisch, elektronisch) zaken horen hier thuis.

Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen

Berichtdoor RB16 » 13 feb 2022, 14:19

Mijn achterophanging geeft soms behoorlijke klappen wanneer ik over oneffenheden (putdeksels ed.) rijd. Dit zou vermoedelijk van de lagerbussen in de veerpoten komen die versleten zijn.
Volgens mijn garagist niet te herstellen, enkel in z'n geheel te vervangen. Helaas ondertussen niet meer leverbaar, en ook aftermarked niet te krijgen...

Zo zie ik 2 opties:
- revisie van de dempers/veerpoten -> wie heeft hier ervaring mee? Link naar specialisten die dit kunnen aanpakken?

- vervangen door normale demper + veer (Bilstein ed.). Dit impliceert ook dat het hele hydrauliekcircuit moet worden afgesloten... wat met ASD (2.5-16)?
Op m'n vorige 190E 2.3-16 heb ik deze vervangen door Koni's en de nok tussen hydrauliekpomp en nokkenas verwijderd, wat perfect werkte. Hier had ik echter niet het probleem van het ASD...

(overigens geeft m'n ASD zelf ook een foutmelding en is er momenteel geen sperwerking, maar dat probleem staat los van bovenstaande...)
RB16
Fresh Boarder
Fresh Boarder
 
Berichten: 3
Geregistreerd: 13 feb 2022, 11:18
Type wagen: 190E 2.5-16
Bouwjaar: 1988
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee


Re: Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 15 feb 2022, 08:11

Veerbollen wel goed? Komt de wagen omhoog als de motor draait?
Zie diverse topics op mbklassiekerforum. De T W123 heeft ook hydraulische poten. Alleen kortere poten. Werking zelfde denk ik.
wwwW123
Expert Boarder
Expert Boarder
 
Berichten: 92
Geregistreerd: 22 dec 2008, 14:42
Woonplaats: Helmond
Type wagen: 190
Bouwjaar: 1985
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee


Re: Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen

Berichtdoor Guppie » 15 feb 2022, 09:02

Volgens autodoc zijn deze wel gewoon leverbaar?

plaatje komt uit het boekje van sachs, de OEM voor deze dempers.

Bijlagen
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 136: preg_match_all(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 138: array_unique() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_reimg.php on line 141: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
2022-02-15 09_01_36-SX_CAT_Shock-Absorbers-PC_12818_DE_V03.png
2022-02-15 09_01_36-SX_CAT_Shock-Absorbers-PC_12818_DE_V03.png (66.49 KiB) 3704 keer bekeken
Guppie
Junior Boarder
Junior Boarder
 
Berichten: 39
Geregistreerd: 27 sep 2015, 14:10
Roepnaam:
Type wagen: 190E 2.0
Bouwjaar: 1990
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee
Andere wagens / opmerkingen:


Re: Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen

Berichtdoor MBreed » 15 feb 2022, 15:28

Origineel laten is natuurlijk het beste voor de waarde en originaliteit.

Mijn vader heeft zijn 2.3-16 omgebouwd naar de originele Sportline ophanging. Wegligging en rijgedrag is hierdoor wel aanzienlijk beter. Met ASD is dit wel een stuk lastiger.
MBreed
Expert Boarder
Expert Boarder
 
Berichten: 111
Geregistreerd: 23 jun 2020, 14:57
Woonplaats: Schagen
Roepnaam:
Type wagen: 190E 2.3-16
Bouwjaar: 1988
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee
Andere wagens / opmerkingen:


Re: Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen

Berichtdoor lwa250 » 17 feb 2022, 13:01

Op marktplaats staat een gebruikt setje te koop in Rotterdam . Hij wil er 150 voor hebben
Ik ben op zoek naar een 190E 2.3-16
lwa250
Junior Boarder
Junior Boarder
 
Berichten: 27
Geregistreerd: 26 jan 2014, 10:42
Woonplaats: Oud-Beijerland
Roepnaam:
Type wagen: 190E 2.3-16
Bouwjaar: 1985
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee
Andere wagens / opmerkingen:


Re: Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen

Berichtdoor RB16 » 17 feb 2022, 21:52

Bedankt voor het advies!
Ik wist niet dat Sachs deze ook maakte (mogelijk zijn de OEM ook van Sachs?), dit lijkt me de beste optie!

Ik ga deze op MP eens bekijken. M'n voorkeur gaat voor zo'n slijtage-onderdelen eigenlijk uit naar nieuw, maar 150€ is wel een pak schappelijker dan wat ze hiervoor gewoonlijk op ebay vragen...
RB16
Fresh Boarder
Fresh Boarder
 
Berichten: 3
Geregistreerd: 13 feb 2022, 11:18
Type wagen: 190E 2.5-16
Bouwjaar: 1988
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee


Re: Dempers achteras met niveauregeling vervangen

Berichtdoor Spaansen » 18 feb 2022, 22:25

Uiteraard origineel laten.

De lagers in de demper gaan bijna nooit kapot.
Zou eerst maar een betere diagnose stellen.

Dempers zijn het eigenlijk niet bij een 16v , het zijn enkel hydrolische cilinders.
De demping vind plaats in de veerbollen onder je auto hier zit een membraan in en daarachter een gasvulling.
Deze gaan op de duur kapot.
Resultaat is dat alles nog prima werkt enkel mis je de demping en heb je gewoon harde starre cilinders.

Kraken komt meestal van de buitenste lagers van de draagarm , vandaar dat deze de bijnaam kraakbussen hebben.

Alles bij je achter dempers is makkelijk te doen omdat de cilinders zonder de leidingen niet onder druk staan kun je makkelijk in en uitbouwen , wel nieuwe koper ringen plaatsen ivm afdichting.

Het systeem ontlucht zich zelf naar een lange auto rit .

Kijk eens in mijn showroom topic misschien heb ik het op foto staan gezien ik alles al vervangen heb.

Veerbollen kosten al snel 100;- per stuk , de dempers( cilinders ) zo 250,- a 300,- per stuk
Sachs zit er origineel op. Sachs 102808 is het nummer voor de 2.3-16 en de 2.5-16
Avatar gebruiker
Spaansen
Diamant Boarder
Diamant Boarder
 
Berichten: 1819
Geregistreerd: 31 dec 2010, 21:25
Woonplaats: Lelystad
Type wagen: 190E 2.3-16
Bouwjaar: 1986
Automaat: Nee
LPG: Nee
Andere wagens / opmerkingen:


Keer terug naar Techniek W201

Wie is er online

Gebruikers op dit forum: Geen geregistreerde gebruikers. en 1 gast