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De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes.. : Andere dingen W201 en andere C-Klasse - 2

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De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor DJS » 10 maart 2014, 21:52

Je hebt er geen rekening mee gehouden dat er bij omkeuring naar LPG het kenteken gewicht zwaarder wordt gemaakt:
http://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/c ... e_inbouwen
Het "massa ledig voertuig" op kenteken wordt vergroot met 0,8*Inhoud LPG tank in liters. Dit kan zo een gewichtsklasse schelen. ;) Het was dus volkomen rechtvaardig dat Vinneview een andere massa (1 gewichtsklasse hoger) nam voor de LPG bolide.
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor VmaX » 10 maart 2014, 23:49

Ik gebruikte voor mijn LPG wagen dezelfde gewichtsklasse als Vinnie, en wat de diesel betreft, ik checkte met name de 2.5D en die weeg precies zoveel (of met airco zelfs meer) als een 2.3E.
Overigens is mijn wagen na de herkeuring voor LPG in dezelfde gewichtsklasse gebleven. (1240 kg)
Een gewichtsklasse meer of minder is ongeveer €10,- in de maand.

Om gemanoeuvreer op de vierkante millimeter te voorkomen :lol: Vinnie heeft volkomen 100% gelijk dat diesel (tegenwoordig) goedkoper is dan LPG. en zeker is diesel betrouwbaarder dan LPG, absoluut waar, maar dat gaf ik zelf direct ook al aan.
De ietwat subjectieve discussie boog vervolgens af in de richting van hoeveel dan precies.

Dus, ja diesel is nu goedkoper maar Ik rij met heel veel plezier in mijn auto en niet voor de centen achter de komma ;)
Dus ik blijf voorlopig LPG verstoken.
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor Daarhijum » 25 maart 2014, 16:03

Helaas is auto rijden niet goedkoop in een kikkerlandje als Nederland, en met de huidige veranderingen in onze belastingstelsels not nice, maar een hobby gaat nu eenmaal gepaard met kosten. :(

Er zijn er natuurlijk een aantal die een 190D gekocht hebben om goedkoop (zonder wegenbelasting) en degelijkheid te gaan rijden in een 190D of een 190E op gas, en die verkopen hun trouwe duitse tank jammer . :cry:

Maar het 190 virus zit nu eenmaal in je lijf en is moeilijk te bestrijden voor de meesten onder ons, voor die gene is het een hobby en autorijden in je Hobby gaat gepaard met een brede grijns op je (smoel wou ik zeggen maar laten we het netjes houden) gezicht en dat mag wel wat kosten vindt ik. :woohoo:

Ik spreek hier natuurlijk wel voor mijzelf, maar misschien zijn er meer die hier er zo over denken, of ik heb behoorlijk de koorts en een dikke 190 virus te pakken dat kan natuurlijk ook. :sick:
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor Ceewee » 25 maart 2014, 17:21

Ik ben toevallig zo'n 190D rijder, lekker goedkoop tuffen :laugh:
Ik heb een oliestoker genomen uit nostalgische overweging, in 1985 zo'n wagen als leasebak gehad en daarmee in 3 jaar ruim 290.000 km gereden naar Frankfurt en huis plus nog wat prive kilometertjes, nooit wat aan gehad behalve normaal onderhoud. Dus ik zocht een betrouwbare Benz en dan is de keuze zeer snel gemaakt. Hoeft geen racer te zijn, tijd met Alfaatjes heb ik al achter de rug,gelukkig voor de beurs, CJIB iets minder gelukkig :lol: . Ik tuf dus lekker nu zo tussen de 20 en 25 duizend km. per jaar en dan is diesel voordeliger dan benzine plus goedkoper/makkelijker onderhoud.
Mag wat kosten, iedere hobby kost geld.
Ik was en ben bijzonder happy met mijn Benz en hoop dat nog een aantal jaren vol te houden. Zelfs vrouwlief begint er vrede mee te krijgen, beter dan bus en lopen :mrgreen:

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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor W201Class » 25 maart 2014, 17:47

Ik zou zelf ook, als ik een belastingvrije 190 had, de auto wegdoen als ik weer de volle mrb erover moest betalen. Voor dat bedrag zou ik wel iets nieuwers rijden. Zeker als het een diesel was. Hoeft dan niet perse een 190 te zijn want ik heb meer een Mercedes virus dan een 190 virus. W211/W204 avantgarde enzo..maar jah $$$$$...
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 25 maart 2014, 18:54

Ik heb gewoon nog helemaal niets gehoord van de belastingdienst, alleen een brief eind vorig jaar, dat de regels anders gingen worden ( duh ), maar geen acceptgiro of rekening, niets :doh:

Zal je zien : zit-ie morgen bij de post !
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor Orion » 25 maart 2014, 19:32

Ik heb de mijne liggen sinds 2 weken, maar ik laat hem tot uiterste datum op de plank liggen.
Geef me een PB.
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor Kever » 25 maart 2014, 23:12

@ Cees hierboven: mooi verhaal. Ik herken de overwegingen om voor een 190 diesel te kiezen. Het rijdt zuinig, is betrouwbaar en probleemloos en nog onderhoudsvriendelijk ook. Mede daardoor en door het diesel-karakter rustgevend.

Voor de lol heb ik laatst eens ergens gevraagd wat ik er nog voor terug zou krijgen. Via via gaf Nijkamp waar 'ie vandaan komt aan, er niks meer mee te kunnen: de markt is volledig ingestort. Verkoop- of inruilwaarde zit nu wel op een dieptepunt, denk ik. Ook dat hoort bij de nieuwe kosten-realiteit van onze benzjes.

Gewoon doorrijden dus: in mijn geval (28.000 km per jaar) is dat de verreweg beste en voordeligste manier om tevreden te blijven en de investering er optimaal uit te halen.
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor FerryB » 26 maart 2014, 01:45

Ik heb ook nog steeds niets gehoord.Misschien vergeten ze me wel :o
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 26 maart 2014, 05:58

@ Ferry : ze zijn van huis uit niet zo vergeetachtig, hoor :roll:

@ Kever: wat je doet is wijsheid, een (noodzakelijke ) maar verstandig besluit. En denk nog eens aan het rijplezier ! ;)
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor Prometheus » 26 maart 2014, 08:17


"Weten wat men weet en weten wat men niet weet is en "
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor Kever » 26 maart 2014, 09:20

Ruud, ik kan je geen ongelijk geven. De voldoening van het dagelijks rijden in je hobby-project is vele malen groter dan zo' n cleane - lease - bak en de kosten vele malen lager :greetings-clappingyellow:
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor Chris190E86 » 26 maart 2014, 09:52

Ik blijf lekker doorrijden in mijn 190E op LPG +/- 8000km/jaar
Heb deze 190E gekocht op 31-12-2013,dus 1 dag voordat de nieuwe belasting regels ingingen.

Voorheen heb ik jaren belastingvrij gereden in verschillende auto's.

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Ik ben met mijn 190E op LPG dus goedkoper uit dan wat ik gewend ben (belasting meegerekend) en het rijd nog goed en fijn ook.
(helemaal als binnenkort de automaat is gemaakt) :lol:
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Re: De nieuwe kosten realiteit voor onze benzjes..

Berichtdoor Hakie » 26 maart 2014, 22:00

Ik hou ze voorlopig alledrie. ( 2.0, 2.3, 2.6 ) de 2.0 uit 1983 is klokgaaf en staat onder een doek geschorst in de garage. Als de regeling toch nog teruggedraaid wordt naar 30 jaar is dat gunstig voor deze wagen. Even afwachten dus. Verkopen kost me teveel geld.
De 2.6 staat ook tijdelijk geschorst omdat er wat klussen aan gedaan moeten worden en ik toch ook maar 1 auto kan rijden. Nog geen belasting betalen voor deze auto. Nog even pech voor den haag.
De 2.3 staat voor de deur en rij ik als ik hem nodig heb. Deze valt in de kwart regeling en gaat dus 's winters naar binnen. Dan komt de 2.6 weer van stal. Die is dan winterklaar.
Zo betaal ik 120 + 150 wegenbelasting per jaar. En natuurlijk de kosten voor het schorsen.
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