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door Sem_190D » 13 jun 2010, 11:44
Hallo,
Ik heb een probleem met de tellers in mijn 190D.
De klok en snelheidsmeter werken goed, maar bij de brandstofmeter en oliedruk gaat iets mis.
De oliedruk staat gewoon op 0, maar als ik dan de sleutel op contact draai gaat deze direct naar de 3 bar. De motor loopt dan nog niet!
De tankmeter geeft volgens mij wel de goede waarde aan..maar als ik het knipperlicht of de alarmlichten aan doe gaat de tankmeter ook knipperen tussen vol en halfvol:ohmy:
Als ik het dimlicht aan zet gaat de tankmeter direct naar vol toe. De temperatuurmeter doet het wel goed die geeft gewoon goede temperatuur aan.
Maarja bij de rest lijkt me niet helemaal kloppen:blush:
Iemand een idee wat dit is, en met name hoe het op te lossen is?
Zelf lijkt het me een massaprobleem...maar waar ik het moet zoeken is me een vraagteken!
Alvast bedankt voor het meedenken!
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door Ruub-ster » 13 jun 2010, 14:49
een electronica probleem in een 190D
Hoe krijg je het voor elkaar
Dit lijkt mij inderdaad een massa probleem, heb je op korte termijn nog iets vervangen wat met electronica te maken heeft?
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door Sem_190D » 14 jun 2010, 08:51
Hahah, inderdaad veel elektronica zit er niet aan:P
Nee ik heb niks vervangen wat daar mee te maken kan hebben..
En weet ook niet wanneer het probleem ontstaan is want heb de auto zo gekocht dus vandaar!
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door Tourtoise » 14 jun 2010, 10:03
Als je de motor start, gooit ie 'm dan vlot rond of langzaam?
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door Sem_190D » 14 jun 2010, 10:12
Och...T mocht wel eens wat sneller.
Maar had eerst de accu wat leeg, en ben nog druk aan het repareren/opknappen dus zo vaak heb ik hem nog niet hoeven starten. Dus heb nog niet echt duidelijk beeld van hoe goed de auto start.
Maar waar zou dit op kunnen wijzen dan?
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door Tourtoise » 14 jun 2010, 14:13
Als ik me niet vergis zit er aan de onderkant van de motor een massastrip tussen carrosserie en motor die door olielekkage nogal eens verteert.
Je kunt dit makkelijk controleren door één startkabel op de min van de accu te zetten en de andere kant op het blanke metaal van de motor.
En kijk dan eens of je probleem zich nog voordoet.
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door Sem_190D » 14 jun 2010, 19:51
Ja klopt heb de massastrip gevonden!
Maar heb het geprobeerd met een startkabel op de min en op de motor, maar zag geen verandering.
Dus volgens mij is dat contact nog wel goed!
Denk dat ik het toch wat meer moet zoeken in het dashboard of tellerhuis? Het lampje van voorgloeien blijft trouwens ook branden wanneer de motor loopt, terwijl er geen stroom op de gloeibougies staat. Maar of dit met elkaar te maken heeft is weer een ander punt...
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door HansMercedes » 14 jun 2010, 20:16
Ik denk dat je de massa verbindingen van je dachbord even moet nalopen grt hans
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door Sem_190D » 14 jun 2010, 21:59
Ja ik denk het ook Hans. Ben vanavond al even begonnen met loshalen.
Die plaat onder het tellerhuis lukt nog wel, maar nu moet volgens een ander topic de verwarmingsbuis los..
Ik weet niet of het bij jullie er net zo uit ziet maar vind het nog niet echt meevallen!
Of knippen jullie em in tweeën haha:P
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door HansMercedes » 15 jun 2010, 16:35
Nee doorknippen is geen optie hoor
maar als je nu even links boven voel bij die slang kan je hem zo van je ventilatie rooster afhalen en daarna ombuigen en tussen je bedrading door er uit trekken want dan komt hij bij de kachel ook los grt hans
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door Sem_190D » 15 jun 2010, 18:55
Hallo Hans het is weer gelukt hoor! Bedankt voor de uitleg.
Maar nu heb ik het tellerhuis in handen...wil ik de massaverbindingen nalopen.
Maar zou zo niet weten waar de plus en min het tellerhuis ingaan. Weet jij welk stekkertje hier het probleem kan zijn?
Heb trouwens ook geen verlichting van de middenconsole, helemaal niks. En nu las ik in een ander topic iets over een zekering die stuk kan zijn, moet lijken op een lampfitting. Behalve kan bij die van mij geen rood geval vinden....
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door Tourtoise » 15 jun 2010, 19:02
Bij auto's worden bruine draden meestal als massa gebruikt. Als er op de stekkers die je losgemaakt hebt een bruine draad hebt kun je die eens nalopen om te kijken of die beschadigd is of nog wel aan massa ligt.
Kom je er niet uit zul je echt moeten gaan meten met een Ohm meter.
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door Sem_190D » 15 jun 2010, 19:17
Ja ik heb het net doorgemeten. Nummer 1 op de grote ronde stekker is de massa.
Dus heb de multimeter aangesloten op deze nummer 1 en de plus op de plus van het klokje... en toen had ik 12,8 volt.
Misschien is het dan toch die zekering? Ik zag in een ander topic ook wat blauwe draden loshangen, dit heb ik ook... zie deze foto:
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door HansMercedes » 15 jun 2010, 19:18
[img size=320]http://www.w201club.nl/images/fbfiles/images/PICT0142-1b40bf6b8fc8d9fc85fa7948eb0bbd2e.JPG[/img] Als je het er al op heb zitten moet het deze rode lampfiting zijn .grt hans
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HansMercedes
- Diamant Boarder
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- Type wagen: 190E 2.6
- Bouwjaar: 1989
- Automaat: Nee
- LPG: Nee
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door HansMercedes » 15 jun 2010, 19:21
[img size=320]http://www.w201club.nl/images/fbfiles/images/PICT0141-0f769338e3b7e4d42308d7fa18c17fdf.JPG[/img] en op deze foto zit hij gemonteerd . Is dit dachbord wel dezelfde als die je er uit gehaald heb want er zijn wel eens verschillen hoor en die rode zekering is daar 1 van grt hans
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HansMercedes
- Diamant Boarder
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- Berichten: 4582
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- Woonplaats: Beverwijk
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- Type wagen: 190E 2.6
- Bouwjaar: 1989
- Automaat: Nee
- LPG: Nee
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door Sem_190D » 15 jun 2010, 19:30
Hmm.. Bij mij zit op die plaats van jou rode zekering gewoon een lampje, een zwarte net als de rest.
Alleen het toevallige is dat dit lampje wel stuk is...zou het kunnen dat er op deze plek wel een zekering hoort maar dat men een lampje geplaatst heeft ipv zekering? Heb namelijk wel stroom gemeten op het dashboard..of zijn er meerdere massa aansluitingen dacht van niet toch? Gr Sem
Oja ik heb trouwens niet dat zwarte vacuüm?? slangetje welke jij rechtsonder hebt. En jij hebt een toerenteller ipv grote klok.
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Sem_190D
- Junior Boarder
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- Bouwjaar: 1986
- Automaat: Nee
- LPG: Nee
door HansMercedes » 15 jun 2010, 19:54
Het zou best een zo kunnen zijn dat hier die rode zekering hoort. verder heb ik een verbruiks meter er in zitten van daar dat vacuum slangetje en op de plaats van je grote klok heb ik en toerenteller zitten met een kleine klok . probeer anders even een ander lampje te plaatsen bv een die er onder zit en wel heel is en kijk dan even hoe of hij het doet grt hans
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HansMercedes
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- Berichten: 4582
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- Bouwjaar: 1989
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- LPG: Nee
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door HansMercedes » 15 jun 2010, 19:55
[img size=558]http://www.w201club.nl/images/fbfiles/images/PICT0174-a3128ab7a118e191291852de48755dea.jpg[/img] zo zien die klokken van mij er aan de voorzijde uit
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HansMercedes
- Diamant Boarder
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- Type wagen: 190E 2.6
- Bouwjaar: 1989
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door Sem_190D » 30 jun 2010, 22:38
Hallo,
Ik heb de afgelopen tijd even wat geexperimenteerd, en heb het volgende geconstateerd. Ik heb het tellerhuis gedemonteerd en toen de ronde multistekker doorgemeten. Volgens mij reageerd de brandstofmeter op de weerstand in de draad. Bij mij begint de brandstofmeter te schommelen wanneer het knipperlicht aan is of het dimlicht. Maar als ik de weerstand in de draad meet veranderd deze niet wanneer ik het knipperlicht of de lampen aanzet. Dus kun je concluderen dat de aansturing niet veranderd dus dat de storing in de teller moet zitten? Of is hier een kleine kans op een gaan de tellers nooit stuk van een Benz:P
Heb voor de rest nog wat draden doorgemeten maar kon nergens een fout vinden met een verkeerd signaal dus neig toch naar een nieuwe teller...
Graag jullie mening.
mvg, Sem
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Sem_190D
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- Geregistreerd: 06 apr 2010, 16:46
- Woonplaats: Westerwolde
- Type wagen: 190D 2.5
- Bouwjaar: 1986
- Automaat: Nee
- LPG: Nee
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