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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor lwa250 » 10 feb 2023, 22:12

Is het niet de asd die voor storing zorgt? Bandenmaat allemaal gelijk?
Ik ben op zoek naar een 190E 2.3-16
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 11 feb 2023, 20:20

Nee, dat lijkt me niet. Nooit problemen gehad met het ASD alsook de banden. De storing is iets van het afgelopen jaar. De 4 jaar daarvoor nooit problemen gehad. Ik denk toch een van de sensors.
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 27 feb 2023, 22:01

Gisteren heb ik de zogenoemde ABS ringen schoon gemaakt. Na 3 a 4 ritjes lijkt het probleem rondom het intreden van het ABS afremmend bij lage snelheid (met pulserend rempedaal en brommende ABS pomp) verholpen. Maar, ik juich niet te vroeg. De ringen zagen er namelijk best goed uit. Het probleem zou zo terug kunnen komen.

Enfin, nu heb ik dus wel nog het probleem dat de ABS pomp ALTIJD 0,5-1 seconde bromt (als de auto uit is geweest) bij het optrekken / wegrijden. Daarbij maakt het niet uit of de auto een nacht stil heeft gestaan of 5min om te tanken. Nu lees ik het volgende op benzworld.org dat me aan het twijfelen brengt;

"When you first pull away from a stop after starting the car, does your ABS pump cycle? It should make a psssshhhh noise that is quite loud on these cars"

Ik kan me eigenlijk niet voorstellen dat dit normaal is maar ik twijfel even aangezien het citaat hierboven precies is wat ik ervaar in mijn auto. Daarnaast heb ik de storing al zo lang dat ik niet meer precies weet hoe het eerst was :whistle:

Wie weet of dit normaal is?

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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor MBreed » 28 feb 2023, 15:41

Ja, dat korte geluid van de pomp bij het wegrijden nadat de auto net gestart is, is "normaal". Dat is een algehele systeemtest.

Het is alleen zo dat je dit bij de ene auto/pomp veel duidelijker hoort dan bij de ander. Ik ken het van diverse R107's, daar is het natuurlijk nog erger met open dak. Menig klant denkt dan dat er iets aan de hand is, maar het hoort zo.
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 28 feb 2023, 17:28

Bedankt voor je antwoord en de uitleg Max!

Dan lijkt het erop dat mijn ABS storing ein-de-lijk verholpen is.
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 08 jun 2023, 13:59

Beste mensen,

Te vroeg gejuicht. :roll:

Na 3 tot 4 maanden zonder ABS storing zijn de klachten weer terug. Ik ben inmiddels ten einde raad en heb in een Mercedes troubleshooting-handleiding het volgende gevonden:

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Dit zijn precies de omschreven klachten dus het testen met een andere ABS module is dan toch wel het proberen waard, en daarom mijn vraag of er iemand op dit forum toevallig een ABS module heeft liggen die ik kan testen (en mits goed resultaat evt. kan overkopen). De module kan verstuurd worden (uiteraard op mijn kosten) of ik kom deze ophalen.

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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Spaansen » 10 jun 2023, 22:51

Ik heb jaren geleden het zelfde gehad .

Begonnen met ovp vervangen e.d.

Soms leek het weg te zijn en dan was het er weer.

Dat meten van de sensoren bracht mij enkel op en dwaalspoor.

Uiteindelijk paar gebruikte sensoren gekocht en bij de eerste wissel was het opgelost.

Als je ovp ok is dan gok ik op één van de twee aan de voorkant.
De cardan sensor hoor je procentueel minder vaak.

Ik heb nog diverse gebruikt liggen kun je wat mee testen als je dan weet welke het is hoef je er maar één te bestellen !
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 12 jun 2023, 10:32

Beste Spaansen,

Dat heb ik precies hetzelfde, het blijft soms tijden weg en dan is het er weer. En op een dwaalspoor zitten door het meten van de sensoren dat herken ik. Lijkt me ook sterk dat het de ABS module is, maar door het meten sluit je eigenlijk uit dat het de sensoren zijn en wil je alles testen wat er te testen valt.

Het zou echt heel tof van je zijn als ik mag testen met jouw gebruikte sensoren. Dat waardeer ik. Hoe wil je het verder afhandelen? Kun je deze opsturen dan vergoed ik uiteraard het verzenden en daarna weer retourneren.
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Spaansen » 14 jun 2023, 23:18

Vrijdag heb ik tijd om te kijken wat ik nu exact heb liggen.
Dan contacten we verder via privé berichten om het forum schoon te houden
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Spaansen » 29 jul 2023, 11:07

Ik heb de topic starter 3 oude sensoren opgestuurd.
Om wat te kunnen testen.
Met 1 sensor kon hij het oplossen.
Nu blijkt dat de abs sensoren voor onze modellen moeilijk te vinden zijn.
Dus heb ik er een verkocht aan hem.
De andere sensoren zijn weer keurig terug gestuurd met Merci chocolade erbij.

Dus weer iemand kunnen helpen.
Zijn abs storing is opgelost
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 30 jul 2023, 11:49

Fijn dat je een clubvriend hebt kunnen helpen, mooi gedaan man ! :handgestures-thumbupleft:
STERREN STRALEN AAN DE HEMEL, STERREN STRALEN OP DE WEG !
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Engelen1994 » 31 jul 2023, 09:52

Mijn dank aan Spaansen die mij perfect geholpen heeft bij het, eindelijk, oplossen van de ABS-storing die mij al meer dan een jaar teisterde. De sensor RV bleek toch de boosdoener. Dit was dus de sensor die bij de metingen een hoger voltage afgaf dan LV. Bij 50kmh gaf RV 1v meer af dan LV. Bij 80kmh RV 1,2v meer dan LV. Dit zijn mijn bevindingen mocht iemand ooit hetzelfde probleem ondervinden.
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Re: ABS storing

Berichtdoor Timo_87 » 31 jul 2023, 11:59

Top om te horen dat het geregeld is met het forum.

Zeker goed om te weten mocht het ooit voorkomen :handgestures-thumbupleft: !
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