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Beste 190 vrienden: Bekend probleem deur links achter kraakt en sluit soms bijna niet meer: Dus nieuwe deurvanger erin.
Echter, het blijkt dat bijna 100% van de aangeboden deurvangers eigenlijk voor de voorportieren zijn. Deze gaan verder open dan de achterportieren. Een achterportiervanger kost bij MB 68,00 Euro. Nogal fors. Het schijnt dat vaak de algemene vangers voor de voorportieren gewoon achter worden gemonteerd. De deur schijnt dan ongeveer bijna 90 graden open te gaan. De vraag is: Komt-ie dan niet in contact met de carrosserie met schade mogelijkheid?
Hier moet vast links en rechts wat ervaring mee zijn. Hoor graag of dat zonder kans op problemen te doen zou zijn.
Hartelijke groet,
Rob.

Bij Steronderdelen staat er maar 1 deurvanger voor voor/achter 14,95 Euro
gr Ron

Gebruik de zoekfunktie eens, op "deurvanger"en/of "windvanger".

Ik heb de mijne ook laten vervangen, een jaar of 3 geleden meen ik, 22.50 E per stuk. Met zwarte kap en al vervangen, maar dat lees je wel in de topics die naar boven komen ( o.a. Hansmercedes en VmaX ).
De deur raakt de carrosserie in ieder geval zeker niet !( ging hij maar een beetje verder open, zou ik niet erg vinden...)

Niet mee wachten !

Dank voor de reacties, Heren, maar Ron zegt: Voor & achter te koop voor Eur.14,95: Dat zijn dus volgens mijn onderzoek altijd de VOORPORTIER vangers ( hoewel er altijd "voor & achter" bijstaat, wat in wezen onjuist is: Voor en achter hebben ook verschillende onderdeelnummers!) en dat is het probleem. MBSLC zegt dat hij ze heeft "laten"monteren". Welke?
Zou dus graag van iemand horen die de gewone, algemeen aangeboden deurvanger in de achterdeur heeft gemonteerd en daarover iets zeggen kan qua mogelijke moeilijkheden met de aanzienlijk grotere openingszwaai van de achterdeur.

Heb even voor je gekeken : kan de factuur ( met onderdeelnr ) niet meer vinden, weet dus niet welke gemonteerd zijn. Sorry.

Zou je dan kunnen bevestigen dat die achterdeur bijna 90 graden open gaat en als dat zo is, dat het dan geen kwaad kan door dat de voorrand van de deur de carosserie raakt of ergens anders problemen kan geven?

Volgens EPC van http://www.everythingbenz.com
Nummer achtervanger: A 201 730 04 16
Voorvanger: A 126 720 05 16 vervangen door: A 126 720 00 16.
Kappen voor/achter: A 124 722 00 08.
Bij goochelen op afbeeldingen lees je ook dat bij de achtervanger ook specifiek staat voor achterdeur.
mvg. Harm.

Dank je Harm, maar ik weet dat het verschillende nrs. en uitzwaaihoeken zijn! Dit is mij bekend! Het gaat erom of iemand de "standaard"units die overal worden aangeboden ( en eigenlijk alléén voor vóór zijn!) al eens achter heeft gemonteerd, en zoja wat zijn de consequenties in detail. Zie eerdere vraag!

Je kan ook je deurvanger even los halen en de deur 90º open doen en kijken of het goed gaat.
En anders kost het nog geen €15 om te proberen.

Heb snel wat foto's gemaakt, deur gaat wel ver open, maar raakt de carrosserie niet, volgens mij. Zeker geen 90 graden, maar 75 of zo, wel.
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Vergeet niet dat onze auto's bedoeld zijn voor Dikke Duitsers, vandaar de wijd openslaande deuren !

Kijk, dat is nu precies wat ik wilde weten! Dank je zéér MBSLC voor de moeite die je hebt gedaan. Super!! We kunnen dus met een redelijk gerust hart 2 "standaard" voor-vangers bestellen. Fraaie foto's! Was bang dat de voorste rand van de achterdeur mogelijk de deursteun zou kunnen raken. Zoals het hier er uit ziet zitten daar nog enige centimeters tussen. Alleen: Is dat ook het geval met het voorportier gesloten? Laat dat als je wilt nog even weten, O.K.?
Nogmaals reuze veel dank voor de hulp.

Zal voor je kijken....

Heb net even gekeken, geen dank voor gedane moeite, ik ben zelf ook altijd goed en uitgebreid voorgelicht door onze clubleden. Daar zijn we clubvrienden voor, tóch ? Vroeger was het wat gezelliger, maar dat is een andere discussie.
Voor techniek en onderdelen etc is het een fantastische site.

Als de voordeur open is en je doet de achterdeur ook open ( zoals op de foto's ) geeft dat geen centimeters ruimte, maar slechts 1 cm, om de B-stijl niet te raken. Maar 1 cm is uiteraard voldoende, ook als de je deur dichtsmijt.

Als de voordeur dicht is, en je maakt de achterdeur open, dan raakt de achterdeur, de voordeur net niet : dit zijn millimeters. Maar de uitzwaai is zonder deur-deur contact.

Op de deuren zit een soort van horizontale lijn ( sierlijn in carrosseriekleur )die een cm dik is, daar is de ruimte uiteraard het kleinst, als je de achterdeurdeur opendoet . Hoop dat je begrijpt wat ik bedoel.

Weet zo snel niet hoe dit met mopf-uitvoering is, ná 1986.

Maar conclusie : no worries, er is geen contact. En nog steeds weet ik niet of ik nu de deurvangers erin heb, die erin horen. Maar er is gelukkig geen schade.

Succes, laat maar horen hoe het gegaan is !

Betere informatie kan een mens niet krijgen...! Dank je zeer. Gezien het laatste verslag ben ik er van overtuigd dat bij jou de "standaard" aangeboden vangers ( dus eigenlijk die voor de voorportieren) zijn gemonteerd. De originele exemplaren geven een veel grotere vrijloopmarge en de achterdeur gaat dan ook aanzienlijk minder ver open dan vóór.
Ga nog even struinen naar origineel, anders gwoon de makkelijke optie. Zal berichten!

Ik heb geen kinderen of dikke schoonmoeder, maar ik ben blij met de grote openzwaai, zeker met boodschappen, kratten bier, jas erin gooien enz enz.

Zou hem niet smaller wensen.

O.K. Inmiddels beide deurvangers vervangen met "als nieuwe"exemplaren (met beschermhuls) die ik bij lokale sloperij heb gevonden. Alles perfect: Als nieuw! Veel dank voor de adviezen van iedereen.
Het meest heikele was voor mij om de deurbekleding er zonder enige schade af te krijgen. Heb een perfecte link naar een Duits forum gevonden die dit prachtig in detail beschrijft mét foto's. Als alles los is vooral belangrijk te weten dat de deurplaat omhóóg geschoven moet worden anders breek je de kunststof klauwtjes af. All-in-all prima karweitje wat keurig te doen is. Hieronder de link!
http://www.mercedes-schrauber.de/board/ ... readID=990

Mooi man. Dit klusje staat mij ook nog te doen. Zal met deze nieuwe link een stuk makkelijker worden.

Ben blij voor je !
Dank voor de terugkoppeling

En zo ziet het eruit bij een facelift als je een voorste deurvanger monteert in de achterdeur:

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Voorste deurvanger in achterdeur (mopf)

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Nipt, maar het past .