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W201Club.nl • Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen. : LPG Specifiek W201 - 2
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Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 nov 2012, 16:38
door Orion

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 nov 2012, 16:51
door Harm Eikelkamp
sorry hoor als je e 2 weken over doet om een kapotte cq slecht werkende k jet stop te lokaliseren ben je of te voorzichtig of je snapt het gassysteem niet.

maar goed ook een gasboer met 10 jaar ervaring heeft in mijn ogen niet genoeg er aangedaan ,en of heeft niet de ijd er voor gekregen/genomen om het op te lossen. want gas en tegelijk benzine dat hoor je al an het lopen. hij verzuipt gewoon.

praktijk heet dat.

gr harm

ps .......................ach laat ook maar

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 nov 2012, 17:07
door Orion
Harm,

Ik kan hier nou wel op ingaan, maar is het me niet waard. Als je topic had gevolgd destijds had je dit niet geantwoord.

Grtz Orion

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 nov 2012, 19:44
door Harm Eikelkamp
heb ik gevolgd dat topic en daarom zeg ik het ook en daarom heb ik er niet op gereageerd.

leer terug te denken en te begrijpen hoe een motor werkt dan is het soms makkelijkerder sleutelen.
het is een tip geen kritiek

met andere woorden ik respecteer je verhaal maar om een hele auto uit elkaar te halen voor zoiets simpels!


zand er over ik ben er klaar mee gr harm

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 nov 2012, 19:54
door Orion
Het is dat ik me niet wil verlagen. Daarom maar on-topic.

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2012, 11:52
door HansMercedes
Ik werk dus ook al meer als 39 jaar als monteur en heb erg veel gasinstalaties ingebouwd . ik kan natuurlijk goed begrijpen dat we hier een probleem hebben ,maar als ik het goed lees heeft de auto dit probleem gekregen na een backfire . Heeft de auto een regelklep dan kan deze ontregeld zijn waardoor hij dus op benzine ook niet netjes loopt . Vandaar begrijp ik orion ook goed als deze zegt dat een auto ook wel netjes op benzine moet kunen starten om het op gas ook goed te kunnen doen . Die regelkep zit aan een stukje electronica gekoppeld die er voor zorgt dat de auto netjes rond draaid en als dat ontregeled is kan je stellen wat je wil maar dan zal het probleem nooit helemaal weg zijn . Maar een paar foto's van hoe het er nu werkelijk uit ziet onder die kap zal misschien ook wat duidelijkheid geven . Wat die omgebogen luchtslang betreft dat doet men zodat er niet direct rijwind in het luchtfilter geblazen word grt hans

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2012, 19:41
door Benzi190
Zal morgen foto`s maken en proberen te plaatsen. Auto is wel van 84, en volgens de vorige eigenaar zit er een 1.8 in, ook heeft ie abs en saccobretters rondom, dus of omgebouwd of omgekat. Maar hier kan ik aan de auto niks van ontdekken.Kan jullie alwel vertellen dat er een groot luchtfilterhuis op zit en er een spinnekop onder zit, dus geen carburateur.Hans, wat is het apparaat waar die slang met 2 knietjes die onder het inlaatgedeelte zit aan zit en waarom zit er een soort smoorventiel c.q. regelschroef tussen, het stationairtoerental reageert er wel op hoe opener je deze zet hoe sneller motor loopt.En hoeveel vacuumslangen zitten eronder het luchtfilter?

Gr. Chris.

Orion, ben blij dat jij ook meehelpt, 2 weten altijd meer als 1 en je hebt zelf ook een kloteprobleem gehad, zal trouwens bij mij die stop ook even loshalen om de contacten te checken ( als ie inzit tenminste )

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2012, 19:48
door Harm Eikelkamp
stappenmotor met regelschroef. door jou backfire moet je alle slangen even goed nalopen die met vacuum te maken hebben.het kleinste scheurtje en of slangetje dat los ligt trekt valse lucht zodat je geen goede waardes van de stuwschijf krijgt (belangrijk op benzine)

verder (moet)zou je hem direct op gas starten en kijken of hij goed loopt.
gr harm

ps kijk even bij te koop aangeboden stappenmotor ik denk dat je die stappenmotor bedoeld

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2012, 20:02
door Orion
Als je bovenstaande uitprobeerd, zou ik ook je benzine-relais eruit halen. Dan weet je in ieder geval zeker
dat die niet op een of andere reden benzine toe kan laten.

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 dec 2012, 16:54
door Benzi190
Kan er maar niet achter komen hoe ik de foto's kan plaatsen, wie kan me dat uitleggen.

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 dec 2012, 17:31
door Orion
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Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 dec 2012, 18:36
door Benzi190
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Mercedes 190e  1984 lpg benz 0101.JPG
afbeelding motor van mijn W201 1984, type motor ?
Mercedes 190e 1984 lpg benz 0101.JPG (54.18 KiB) 28059 keer bekeken

Dit is 1 foto, die van de andere kant is mislukt, maar misschien kunnen jullie nu al zien welk typt blok dit is.

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 dec 2012, 21:29
door Bassje
Je leert snel ;).

Re: Bij koude motor niet stationar willen lopen.

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 dec 2012, 15:24
door HansMercedes
Het lijkt op een 1.8 met injectie grt hans