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Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 02:18
door MercedesFTW
Beste,

Bij aanschaf van mijn auto beschikte de stoelen reeds over stoelverwarming, in verband met een interieur wissel.
Echter liggen de kabels er niet voor en zijn de schakelaars ook niet aanwezig.

Ik heb een setje kabels/relais/schakelaars gekocht (origineel) en moet deze dus gaan inbouwen.
Ik heb hiervoor reeds een plaatje gevonden, op meerdere fora:
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Nou valt mij op dat er een soort van 'control' unit rechts voor bij het voeten eind zit.
Het setje dat ik heb gekocht heb ik gekocht van iemand die dagelijks onderdelen als deze verkoopt en nog nooit zoiets heeft gezien. Naar zijn mening gaan er puur en alleen kabels via de zekeringkast naar relais, schakalaars en dan stoelen.

Nou vraag ik mij af hoe dit nou precies zit, aangezien ik nog nooit stoelverwarming in een W201 heb gezien.

Verder vraag ik mij af hoe de kabels PRECIES liggen en waar de de relais moeten komen te zitten.
Is er een manier om dit het handigst aan te pakken?
Beginnen bij de stoelen en dan kijken waar de kabels uit kunnen komen en dan de meest logische plek kiezen?

Mijn setje ziet er als volgt uit
Op deze foto missen de schakelaars. de blokjes die je ziet zijn de relais

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Dan nog een vraagje:
Wat zijn de exacte posities voor de schakelaars in het hout om de schakelpook? Graag zou ik een aantal afmetingen ontvangen (zeg maar coördinaties) waar ik de gaten moet gaan maken.

Bevat de volgende foto de originele locaties van de schakelaars?

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Verder wil ik hier aan toevoegen dat ik hierover een how-to zal creëren, aangezien hier over het HELE internet bijna niets te vinden is :mrgreen:

Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 06:43
door Hakie
Ik weet niet alles wat je vraagt maar wel:

Die "control" unit heet een SG (Steuergerät) en heb je echt wel nodig. Degene die jou de kabelboom verkocht heeft zou dat moeten weten. Je hebt een "hoge" stand voor je verwarming en een "lage" stand.
Het SG zorgt er onder andere voor dat de verwarming automatisch naar de lage stand, als je hem aanzet op de hoge stand, na ongeveer 5 minuten. (Is exacte tijd voor). Als je die SG niet hebt, heb je misschien een verkeerde kabelboom of zijn er meerdere uitvoeringen?

De juiste plek van de schakelaars zit al voorbereid uitgefreesd onder je paneel. Ze horen te zitten zoals op de foto die je laat zien. Officieel is er wel verschil in de linker en rechter schakelaar. Op de foto 2 dezelfde.

Ik denk dat de kabels zo moeten lopen zoals je ze laat zien op de tekening. Dus gedeeltelijk door de middenconsole en langs de zijkanten van de stoelen via de dorpel. Maar dat weet ik niet zeker.

Ga maar snel beginnen en maak foto's want ik heb ook een set liggen. :-)

Succes!

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 06:55
door Hakie
Dit is het SG




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Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 10:45
door Ruub-ster
Zo dan, dit ga ik even volgen. En die How-to hou ik je bij deze aan vast. Stoelverwarming is naast CC echt een gemis in mn 190!

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 12:28
door Markossie
beste

voor de duidelijkheid, de set op de tekening is niet hetzelfde als op de foto.
op de tekening is voor modellen vanaf 87 met 1 relais
op de foto zijn het er 2 . en dat zijn ook de schakelaars op de foto van het houten paneel.
ik heb het ook gemonteerd maar los onder de stoelen liggen , omdat ik niet weet waar de relais org. zitten

met vriendelijke groet
marc

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 13:37
door Wiersma
Oke, ik kan je het volgende vertellen.
Die kabelboom die je nu hebt is het oude type.
Hier zitten 2 stuurkastjes aan (zijn ook 2 losse kabelbomen)

Deze werkt goed, maar jij hebt een 1991 auto, en daar hoort de nieuwe type in, met nieuwe type schakelaars.
Het nieuwe type heeft 1 relais zoals Hakie al aangaf.

Inbouw handleiding oude type:
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Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 15:33
door MercedesFTW
Bedankt allen voor de reacties.
Ik las later inderdaad over verschillende types m.b.t. bouwjaar van de auto
Mijn stoelen komen uuit de auto van DUCATON die een 1990-er heeft.

@wiersma Je geeft aan "maar jij hebt een 1991 auto, en daar hoort het nieuwe type in, met nieuwe type schakelaars"

MOET dit ook daadwerkelijk, of kan ik gewoon het setje gebruiken dat ik heb aangeschaft?
Ik hoop natuurlijk dat de stekkers overeen komen i.v.m. de verschillende types.

Wanneer ik het setje binnenkrijg kan ik dit gaan controlleren :whistle:

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 18:09
door Fietsensloper
Nou de aansluitpunten van de oude en nieuwe types schakelaars zijn verschillend, plus dat de schakelaar zelf ook anders is.
En ook de aansluitingen op de stoelverwarmingsmatten zelf zijn anders...

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 18:44
door Hakie
De aansluitingen van de verwarmings elementen zou je nog met alternatieve aansluitingen kunnen maken. Dat zijn maar 2 draadjes per mat. Als je het origineel wilt houden moet je de juiste connectors hebben.
Maar zoals al gezegd, met jouw oude type kabelboom heb je straks het oude type schakelaar in je nieuwe type schakelpaneel. Is dan dus ook niet zoals het hoort maar werkt wel.

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 19:12
door ScareMercy
Je kunt de pinnen toch omsteken in de houders zodat de nieuwe type schakelaars toch in de oude type kabelboom past.

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 19:32
door MercedesFTW

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 20:49
door ScareMercy

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 22:14
door Orion
Een paar foto's van je connectors zou leuk zijn, wellicht iemand die dat ook wil gaan doen. Ik bijvoorbeeld. hahaah :lol:
Maar mij is het duidelijk wat je schrijft, maakt alleen dit topic mooi af of een How-To.

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 22:53
door MercedesFTW
Morgen, mits ik tijd heb, bouw ik alles in. Ik zal overal een foto van maken en daarover een how-to schrijven.
Komt goed 8-)

Ben ook nog te weten gekomen dat de aansluiting voor de verlichting van de knop, wat bij de rest van de knoppen aan gaat zo gauw je de verlichting aanzet achter je cockpit/tellerbak zit aan de rechterkant. Ik hoop dat ik er bij kan komen....... :pinch:

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 23:02
door Orion
Goed Bezig Tom, leuk dat je een how-to gaat maken.

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 23:05
door MercedesFTW
Zou mezelf zelfingenomen vinden als ik dat niet zo doen. Er is zo weinig over te vinden. Ik schraap alle kennis bij elkaar en vervolgens niet het complete verhaal delen met mensen die hier ook naar op zoek zijn? dat zou verkeerd zijn he :hand: :ugeek:

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 jan 2014, 23:24
door Orion
Nee, dat is het doel. Kennis op doen en delen. Heb zelf ook diverse how-to's gemaakt. Is ook leuk om te doen. Zekers als het niet iets is wat vaak gebeurt. Maar ik heb een verwarmings set in mijn wagen 1e serie, maar een lederen interieur wat er in komt van serie 2. Maar ik heb de stekker behuizingen besteld bij mb voor een paar euro.

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 09 jan 2014, 11:38
door MercedesFTW
Ik ga de stekker gewoon niet gebruiken. Ik haal de 'pinnetjes' er uit en stop ze in de stekkers van de kabelboom.
Is precies hetzelfd

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 09 jan 2014, 12:45
door Fietsensloper

Re: Electrische stoelverwarming inbouwen

BerichtGeplaatst: 09 jan 2014, 16:12
door Orion
Die stoelen hebben de elementen erin zitten. Maar moet me nog bedenken. Is een mooi interieur, maar vindt grijze deurpanelen niet mooi. Denk dat ik het laat spuiten in het zwart.

Maar dat ga ik niet hier verder vermelden. (topic-vervuiling) :lol: :lol: