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gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 maart 2010, 22:41
door hans960
Hallo iedereen, ben nieuw hier met meteen een vraag/probleem.
Af en toe wordt zonder dat ik ook maar iets doe het toerental verhoogd, bij stationair zo'n beetje elke 5 SEC even maar ook tijdens het rijden geeft hij zonder reden af en toe wat gas bij.
Soms gebeurt het dagen niet en dan begint het weer. de gasklep beweegt tijdens dat probleem niet dus het lijkt wel een willekeurige verrijking te wezen. Iemand enig idee?

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 16 maart 2010, 16:51
door Beer
Ja Maarten, denk het ook Lambda sensor is, deze meet de in en uitlaat gassen.

gr. Beer

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 16 maart 2010, 23:21
door Bassje
'Inlaatgassen' doormeten is ook vrij nutteloos lijkt me :silly:

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 maart 2010, 17:00
door Brouwers

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 maart 2010, 18:00
door HansMercedes
een lamda sonde meet de zuurstof graad in je uitlaat gassen en aan de hand daarvan pas deze het mengsel aan door signalen te geven naar je computer. de 2e sonde na de kat regelt het laatste beetje er uit wat de kat niet meer schoon krijgt . moderne motoren hebben vaak ook nog een egr regeling . omdat bij 100% verbranding nox vrijkomt wat schadelijker is als co2 . door de egr worden een deel van de uitlaat gassen nogmaals door de motor gestuurd via het inlaat gedeelte om de uitlaat gassen weer wat te vervuilen om nox tegen te gaan . egr beteken in nederlands uitlaat gas recyceling grt hans

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 maart 2010, 18:36
door hans960
Tja, als eigenaar van het probleem met "gasregeling" lijkt mij de tendens dat de lambda sonde dus defect zou kunnen zijn, er werd zelfs een kwartje onder verwed, dat geeft de burger moed.
In een grijs verleden was ik werkzaam in de auto branche, 1978-1983, en in die goede oude contactpunten tijd heb ik mijn ervaringen opgedaan. Vandaar.
Ik ga gewoon die sonde proberen en bedank alvast iedereen hartelijk voor het meedenken. Resultaat volgt..........
Hans

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 maart 2010, 22:33
door hans960
Oef, net op tijd Maarten haha, dankje wel voor je advies, ik zal inderdaad maar even langs zo'n "apk boer "gaan om hem mijn vier gassen te laten testen/ meten . Is het trouwens niet gewoon mogelijk om de heleboel te omzeilen? stekker er af en de sonde bekijkt het maar? Of raakt de electronica dan in de war?
Met weemoed denk ik nu terug aan mijn peugeot 504 en 404, datsun 120Y e.d. alleen het klokje was electronisch!

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 maart 2010, 22:42
door Ruub-ster

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 maart 2010, 23:12
door hans960
Sorry Ruub ster, ik heb gewoon een rijk auto verleden, was ooit peugeot fanaat ( . ) de datsun ( fiat, daf 33, mitsubishi simca 1000 opel etc ) is mij gewoon overkomen. Geeft wel goed vergelijkings materiaal.
Maar ben nu wel helemaal happy met m'n 190E , toer met veel plezier over "s Heren wegen. ( afgezien dan van kloink bij gas terug en kloink bij gas erbij, plotselinge versnelling en een rammeltje in mijn deur ) haha
Dat gekloink is trouwens wel een beetje irritant, komt bij het differentieel vandaan. Is al vervangen door een goede 2e hands .
Misschien te veel speling in de versnellingsbak of koppelingsplaat.

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 maart 2010, 23:41
door hans960
Maarten, volgens mij ben jij het technisch wonderkind hier.
Ik ben zelf sinds 1985 in de watersport werkzaam en heb dus op auto gebied een heel stuk "vooruitgang"gemist.
Wat de lamda sonde betreft ga ik maar op reparatie modus voordat mijn auto op thuisbreng modus gaat.
De lol van het rondtoeren gaat er dan wel een beetje vanaf.
Het gekloink hoor ik ( bij het differentieel vandaan) bij flink gas en plots afremmen op de motor maar ook cruisend bij tikkie gas terug kloink en tikkie gas idem.
van vrij naar reverse en kopp. op laten komen : kloink, daarna in 1 en kopp. : je raad het al.
Ik bemerk wel aardig wat speling in de cardan, in b.v. de 5e , met wielen van de vloer, kan de as toch wel een aardig stukje draaien. Ik hoor derhalve geen klink in de versnellingsbak alleen kloink bij het dif.
Recentelijk hebben mijn zoon en ik een koppelingsplaat van zijn BMW 316 ( 1987) vervangen waarvan het binnenwerk kaduuk was met cardan speling tot gevolg. Wellicht hier ook het geval ?
Wat hardy schijven betreft, nog nooit van gehoord! Zal ik de vraagbaak bij moeten pakken.

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 maart 2010, 11:56
door Ruub-ster

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 maart 2010, 12:17
door Ruub-ster
Verschil in kwaliteit is inderdaad nogal een probleem, Die ouwe van mij heeft ooit eens 1 zo'n schijf vervangen, maar had toen voor 60 euro zo'n ding, Weet bijna zeker dat deze nu alweer botergaar is...

Mja, ik geef zelf liever wat meer geld uit, zodat de auto betrouwbaar is en dat ik weet dat ik met kwaliteit bezig ben.

Maar inderdaad, je kunt ze ook goedkoper krijgen en dat de kwaliteit wel goed is.

Re:gasregeling?

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 maart 2010, 20:46
door Brouwers