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Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 feb 2010, 16:17
door joppieboy
Beste W201 liefhebbers,

Ik heb een W201 uit 1986 injectie 2.0 en heb het probleem dat de auto soms erg slecht wil starten.
De motor lijkt aan te slaan maar slaat dan gelijk weer af. Na lang doorstarten slaat die eidelijk goed aan.
Als de auto even gelopen heeft zijn er geen problemen meer met starten. Maar na 6 uurtjes staan, is het meestal weer het zelfde probleem.
Het zit m dus waarschijnlijk in de koudestartinrichting. Kunnen jullie een gokje doen wat ik als eerste zou moeten controleren/schoonmaken of vervangen van de koudestartinrichting. Omdat de motor soms wel en soms niet aanslaat weten jullie misschien de mogelijke boosdoener.

alvast bedankt,

Job

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 feb 2010, 20:36
door Arno_Langendam
Beste Job,

Het kunnen vel oorzaken zijn.
Om te beginnen wanneer is er voor het laast obnderhoud gepleegd aan de ontsteking? ( Bougie's, Rotor, Verdeelkap en Bougiekabels )
Als een motor koud is heeft hij een ander mengsel van brandstof en lucht dan wanneer hij warm is.

Staat de ontsteking op tijd?

Als het bovenstaande allemaal oké is, zou het ook aan de injectoren kunnen liggen. Deze sproeien dan niet meer de juiste hoeveelheid en de wijze van sproeien in de cilinder. Na verloop van tijd gaan die dingen ook minder werken.

De injectoren zijn van Bosch en kosten ongeveer €50,- ex BTW En je hebt er 1 per cilinder nodig.

Succes, Arno

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 feb 2010, 21:02
door joppieboy
bedankt voor je reactie Arno,

Alle ontstekingsdelen zijn vervangen (regulier onderhoud) zoals bougies, kabels, rotor, verdelerkap. ontsteking is goed en als de motor warm is, ookal is t vochtig weer, start de auto prima.
Ook loopt de auto erg mooi verder; dus injectoren sluit ik ook uit, op koude start injector na ;)
Ik zoek het echt in de koudestartinrichting maar wat dit probleem precies (soms wel en soms niet) veroorzaakt is mij nog niet geheel duidelijk.

Job

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 feb 2010, 21:11
door Arno_Langendam
Graag gedaan hoor Job, daar zijn we hier toch voor om een beetje mee te denken.;)

Als dat het niet is wat ik zojuist heb genoemd. Kan je ook richting de Lambda sonde denken. Die meet namelijk continu de uitlaatgassen en geeft dit door aan de branstof computer. Hoeveel lucht en brandstof in de motor moet komen.

Succes met het oplossen van het probleem.

Groet, Arno

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 feb 2010, 23:20
door joppieboy
maar volgens mij staat de Lambda sonde "buiten werking"/worden die gegevens niet gebruikt, bij een koudestart actie.

Job

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 feb 2010, 11:11
door joppieboy
bedankt voor je reactie edwin!

Hoe kan ik die onderdelen het beste testen?

Job

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 feb 2010, 12:09
door joppieboy

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 feb 2010, 12:23
door joppieboy

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 feb 2010, 12:32
door joppieboy
ik ben erg benieuwd.

je koudestartinjector spuit wel in enzo?

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 feb 2010, 09:31
door joppieboy

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 feb 2010, 12:21
door mardax
Hoi Job,

Ik heb het zelfde probleem. Ik heb de koudestart injector gedemonteerd, evenals de leiding ernaartoe. Vervolgens heb ik de leiding 180 graden gedraaid en de koude startinjector weer aangesloten, incl. de stekker. Ik heb mijn vinger op het gat van de injector gehouden en mijn zoon de auto laten starten. Ik zag dat de injector een mooie kegel nevelde voor een seconde of 2. Daarna stopte hij. Ik vermoed nu dat de koude start niet aanstuurt. Ik heb zo in ieder geval uitgesloten dat de koude start injector defect is. Gezien het weer van de afgelopen tijd heb ik nog niet verder gezocht.
Weer jij al wat meer???B)

Gr.
Mardax

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 feb 2010, 20:12
door joppieboy
Mijn koude start probleem heeft zich opgelost, vanzelf!!
Dit komt denk ik omdat de Benz een lange tijd had stil gestaan in duitsland. nu is alles mooi schoon en soepel en heeft ie pas weer een grote beurt gehad.

Je injector doet t in ieder geval. Maar moet de koudestart ook niet langer dan 2sec inspuiten. volgens mij hoort dat zo.

SUCCES!!

Job

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 feb 2010, 22:05
door Arno_Langendam
Zo zie je maar een Mercedes-Benz moet rijden,... en niet stil staan!

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 feb 2010, 16:23
door Bassje
Benzen repareren zichzelf :woohoo:

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 feb 2010, 19:00
door HansMercedes

Re:Koude start W201 2.0 injectie soms slecht

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 feb 2010, 23:38
door Ruub-ster
In beweging blijven is inderdaad zeer belangrijk voor een auto, zet je hem langere tijd aan de kant, als je dan gaat rijden moet je ook een flink stuk rijden! Daarom zijn niet alle auto's goed die geadverteert staan als *van een oud vrouwtje geweest geboren in 1603....*

Tuurlijk, ze zien er dan altijd prachtig uit, maar volledig goed ingereden worden en blijven is belangrijk! En een Benz repareert zichzelf wel vaker! denk ik.