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KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 31 maart 2019, 20:52
door Romke88
Weet iemand waar ik heen kan als je problemen hebt met je injectie systeem van Bosch, dan wel het liefst in het noorden van het land?
Ik heb al vanalles geprobeert, en er is al veel opgelost aan problemen, alleen heb ik nu nog dat de motor schokt tussen de 40 en 80 graden.
Hij start nu goed, rijdt goed tot hij warmer wordt, totdat hij rond de 80 graden komt, dan is het net of schakeld er een knop om, en rijdt de auto goed.
Heb al vanalles gedaan, vandaar dat ik nu de specialist wil vragen

Vr gr Richard

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 apr 2019, 07:13
door Harolds
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Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 apr 2019, 06:29
door Boss of a 190
Ontsteking al nagelopen? Misschien ozidatie in de verdelerkap of rotor. Bougies etc

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 apr 2019, 16:09
door Romke88
Verdeelkap nog niet bekeken, omdat hij eerst wel goed loopt, dan slecht, en als hij warm is is het weer goed. Maar ik kan het nog checken.
Toen ik de auto kreeg wilde de koude start ook slecht, eerst pompen met het gaspedaal voordat hij aansloeg. Het overspannings relais vervangen,nieuw luchtfilter, nieuwe bougie’s, veel vacuum slangen vervangen, stationair klep vervangen, temp sensor luchtfilter en op het blok gecontroleerd, waren goed. Tot slot de rubber ringetjes van de brandstof druk regelaar vervangen, deze lekten een beetje.
Nu start hij koud goed, loopt stationair koud ook goed, alleen als hij warmer wordt schokt hij en houdt in, tot de motor op remperatuur is, en dan houdt hij niet meer in en rijdt goed.
Dat is een beetje wat ik gedaan heb.

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 apr 2019, 18:14
door Bastian-Hoen
klinkt inderdaad als een inwendig gebroken temperatuur censor (die met de zwarte stekker)
Draai die stekker eens een 180 graden om dan pak voor de koud start de andere spoel en de ecu krijgt dan de spoel van de koud start
Als er dan wat verandert weet je zeker dat hij niet goed is maar garandeert nog niks hoor
Persoonlijk zou ik hem vervangen ze veroorzaken erg veel problemen
Oja meten kan je alleen echt doen als je de draden van de multie meter verlengt tot in de auto en dan gaan rijden
dan pas kan je zien of er ergens een dood punt zit daarom vervangen is beter en veel makkelijker
Ook kan de lmm deze problemen veroorzaken zie daarvoor het forum staat genoeg over.

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 apr 2019, 20:23
door Romke88
Mooi duidelijk verhaal Richard, kon de zwarte stekker al niet vinden. Blijkt dus dat het gewoon de oude 2-polige sensor er op zit. Ik bestel gewoon een nieuwe, mooi dat je een bestandtje er bij hebt gedaan met de type’s
Als de nieuwe er op zit, zal ik weer verslag doen

Vr gr Richard P

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 apr 2019, 20:33
door Orion
Ben ook benieuwd, leuk dat je wat aan het bestandje hebt. Jaren geleden gemaakt. Ik verdenk momenteel ook deze sensor. Wagen start meteen bij 4 graden buiten temp, daarboven moeizamer. Let wel op dat je de juiste besteld, ab en bis.

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2019, 08:22
door Fietsensloper
Ik heb hetzelfde gehad. Hij starte goed, en tussen de 50 en 80 graden verzoop hij. Daarboven liep hij weer goed.
Heb toen ter controle de sensor gemeten op weerstand vanaf een koude start. Bij start was de weerstand goed, maar zo rond de 50 graden werd de weerstand oneindig, en rond de 80 graden gaf hij weer de goede weerstand.

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 apr 2019, 17:07
door Romke88
De nieuwe sensor was binnen, en vandaag geplaatst. Tijdens de proefrit bleek al snel dat het probleem NIET is opgelost. Het heeft helemaal niks geholpen, en wel een originele sensor besteld, dus dat is het probleem niet.
Heeft iemand nog ideeën?

Gr Richard P

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 apr 2019, 20:54
door Romke88
Hallo Richard,

een heel verhaal om door te lezen, maar het lijkt wel een oorzaak te kunnen zijn.
vandaar dat ik graag dat linkje wilde openen, voor het uitbouwen van die koudomloop,




hier een inbouw beschrijving voor de koudloop.
Uitbouwen gaat in omgekeerde volgorde

http://www.unser-archiv.de/blog/technik ... -anleitung


alleen dit linkje werkt niet, of ligt het aan mijn computer misschien

gr Richard P

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 apr 2019, 07:02
door Bram Jansen
Nee ligt niet aan jouw computer. Dat heb je met linken soms

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 apr 2019, 19:25
door Romke88
Beste Richard,

jij zei: "'Sommige wagens zijn voorzien van een afremarket systeem dat de emissie beinvloed.''

dat systeem zat ook op die van mij, alleen dacht ik dat het wat te maken had met een gas installatie.Ik had de slang bij het "stationair ventiel" gelijk al vervangen, die slangen waren allemaal aan vervanging toe.
ook het schakelaartje in de koelwaterleiding het vacuum afgehaald, op het blok afgedopt, en dat filter er af gehaald
Dat had ik allemaal al gedaan, maar nu na de nieuwe temp. sensor nog steeds problemen.
Heb je nog suggesties?

vr gr Richard P

Re: KE-Jetronic specialist

BerichtGeplaatst: 16 apr 2019, 20:44
door Romke88
Beste Richard,
De vacuum slang die vanaf het spruitstuk komt, en naar de temperatuur klep liep, heb ik gelijk afgedopt op het blok. Die temperatuurklep, zit nog in de waterslang, maar de vacuum aansluiting is doorverbonden. De rest is allemaal weg gehaald en toch loopt de auto nog slecht. Ik ben bang dat het niet aan het aftermarket systeem ligt