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700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 06 dec 2018, 16:51
door AutonomY
Beste forumleden,

Mijn auto trekt in stilstand zonder alarm of centrale vergrendeling in gebruik 680 tot 700mA.
De een vind dit veel, de ander zegt, is niet zo veel.

Ik dacht dat een druppellader wel uitkomst zou bieden, echter dan gebeuren er vaak rare dingen.
Raar is lader kapot, accu ineens op 7 volt, dan weer 1 volt,... raar dus. Ik heb nu 2 accu's en die zijn perfect na 'gewoon' opladen. Gewoon is los van de auto electronica.

Een druppellader duur (75 euro),... en goedkoop (15 euro),... het gaat niet goed om die dingen op de accu aan te sluiten terwijl die gewoon in de auto aangesloten is.

Auto is verder perfect. Maar hij staat vaak een week stil.

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 06 dec 2018, 21:01
door Nico190E
Evert, ik zou als ik jou was steeds na 'n rit de min pool eraf halen.
Die van mij heeft het ook en na 'n maand start die niet meer.

Druppel lader advies is om er geen te gebruiken, die maken nu alle accu's stuk.

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 06 dec 2018, 21:09
door Bram Jansen
Ik heb een aantal goed lijkende accu's staan. Hang ik er een druppellader aan, dan laadt de oudste accu tot 14.3 volt, en dat wil wel eens schommelen, naar 14.1. daarna functioneren ze een paar dagen goed, daarna is het weer basta.
Een druppellader moet gewoon kunnen blijven hangen. De prijs is sterk afhankelijk van het amp van de lader.
Onlangs heb ik een Cteck gekocht van 7 amp, die was ik meen 115 euro. Deze heeft een recondition functie voor wat het waard is. Het goedkope druppelladers van de Lidle doet eigenlijk hetzelfde.

De accu hoeft niet uit de auto als je de polen maar los maakt. Volgens mij is het loshalen van de min pool voldoende.

Als jouw auto na een week stilstand niet meer start, en je hebt geen bijzondere verbruikers, dan is gewoon je accu ter ziele.
Als je een goeie accu hebt, en je spanningsregelaar is in orde moet de auto na een maand nog gewoon goed starten.

Dat druppelladers accu's kapot zouden maken heb ik nog nooit last van gehad, ook bij mijn motor accu niet, en die stond toch de hele winter aan een druppellaar.

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 07 dec 2018, 13:27
door AutonomY
Heel erg bedankt voor de inhoudelijke uiteenzetting allemaal!
Als aanvulling:
De accu die op 1 volt stond was net nieuw. Die is nu opgeladen met een 'gewone' lader en houd z'n spanning nu een week vast (zakt enkele tienden).
De laders:
Powerline PL-C004P (75,- MAPP)
Ultimate ULGD 3.8 A1 (14,95 Lidel)
Na open maken bleek de Lidel lader mooier in constructie. De dure door MAPP geleverd was lelijk soldeerwerk en gingen 3 keer kapot. 2 keer moeten vechten voor garantie, de derde,... niks meer. Geen MAPP voor mij meer.

Ik heb wel een ouderwetse acculader, je weet wel, maar die mag je niet vergeten omdat die blijft doorladen.

Wat ik nu geleerd heb van jullie is dat ik het beste kan gaan laden met losse accu.
Hebben jullie nog een advies over een lader? Ik lees ook dat duur of goedkoop niet veel verschil uitmaakt anders dan de snelheid vanwege de leverbare ampères. Is laden met 7A anders of beter of alleen sneller dan laden met 3 of 4A?

Wat ik ook interessant vind is de min pool losmaken. Een schakelaar voor comfort?

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2018, 16:15
door AutonomY
Ok, bedankt Richard, als het droog is ga ik de metingen verrichten.
700Ma is dus toch wel wat te hoog begrijp ik?

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 dec 2018, 17:49
door Bastian-Hoen
als je elektrische ramen hebt trek dan het relais in de zekerings-kast er eens uit deze geven nog wel eens storingen

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 dec 2018, 11:22
door AutonomY

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 dec 2018, 16:01
door Bastian-Hoen
ik vindt dat inderdaad aan de hoge kant
er zal altijd wel een lekstroom zijn weet niet wat ik aan lekstroom heb maar meer als 100ma lijkt me te veel

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 dec 2018, 20:31
door WJ15129
700 mA is gewoon veeeeeel te hoog.
700 mA = 0,7 ampère, dat betekend dat ieder uur dat de auto stilstaat er 0,7 Ah (ampère/uur} wordt verbruikt.
Dat houdt in dat na 100 uur er 70 Ah uit je accu verdwijnt. Als er een 70 Ah accu in zit is deze dus na 4 dagen stilstand volledig ontladen.
Mijn W123 250 heeft wel eens 7 maanden stil gestaan zonder de accu af te koppelen en kon nog gewoon starten.
Er is echt iets mis.

Re: 700 mA normaal of toch niet?

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 dec 2018, 16:25
door AutonomY