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Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 aug 2018, 12:43
door bayapalma
Hallo,
In een grijs verleden heb ik eens een vraag gesteld over wat te doen bij het niet sluiten van de elektrische ramen bij gesloten deuren. Eindelijk ben ik zover dat ik daar aan toe ben en heb ik toch nog een vraag.
Ik weet dat het diode 164 is (1N4008), zijnde F in het schema en dat hij in een stekkerdoos zit onder het dashboard.
Mijn vraag echter is hoe ik bij die diode kom. Moet ik dan die hele stekkerdoos losschroeven of kan ik door aan een kabel te trekken toegang krijgen tot die diode? Hoe zit dat precies?
Ik hoor het graag. Bedankt alvast voor degenn die reageren.
Chris

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 aug 2018, 03:54
door Marcelenshirley
Hoi je zal even op de knieën moeten en met een zaklamp naar de onderkant van de zekeringkast moeten kijken onder het dashboard idd. Dan zie allemaal zwarte stekkers waarvan 1 geen draden heeft en die moet je hebben! Volgens mij zit ie rechts maar dat weet ik niet helemaal zeker. Meestal zitten ze erg strak dus effe pielen.
Succes Gr Marcel

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 aug 2018, 09:57
door Orion
Beste,

Ik heb dat vorige week gehad en probleem aangepakt.
Ik heb de zekeringkast losgeschroefd in de motorruimte. Rustig de hele kast wat optillen. De dubbele stekker waarin de diode zit zit aan de linkerkant als je voor de auto staat. Zo kun je hem eruit halen en wisselen. Probleem is dan opgelost.
Dit is de comfortdiode.

Zie foto.

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Hier zie je dat ie defect is.
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Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 aug 2018, 19:40
door Bastian-Hoen
wel even goed opletten hoe je hem er in zet
diode laat maar aan 1 kant stroom door
maar op de foto is het goed zichtbaar

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 aug 2018, 22:16
door Marcelenshirley
Waar heb je de diode gekocht Orion en zelf gesoldeerd?

Mvg Marcel

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 aug 2018, 06:40
door Orion
Nee, een reserve diode gebruikt.

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 aug 2018, 21:45
door Marcelenshirley
Okay, maar als ik er ook 1 reserve zou willen kopen waar zou dat kunnen en welke moet ik dan kopen?

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 16 aug 2018, 07:23
door Orion
Niet meer leverbaar bij de dealer, moet je bij electronics winkel een kopen en zelf solderen.

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 16 aug 2018, 08:37
door bayapalma
Heren,

Als ik het aantal reacties bekijk , heb ik aardig wat aangezwengeld aangaande die diode. Bedankt voor de duidelijke antwoorden. We gaan aan de slag.

Nou heb ik nog wel één probleem. Waar koop ik één zo'n diode, want de normale handel verkoopt die dingen alleen in grote aantallen.


Met vriendelijke groet,
Chris

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 16 aug 2018, 10:46
door Marcelenshirley
Dat wist ik al, alleen welke moet ik dan hebben??


Groetjes Marcel

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 16 aug 2018, 11:39
door Orion
Het zou deze diode moeten zijn. 1N4007

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 16 aug 2018, 12:42
door bayapalma
Heren ,

Veel dank, want dankzij dit forum ben ik er in geslaagd de elektrische ramen weer aan de gang te krijgen.
Nog het volgende: er is een overkill v.w.b. het voltage van die diodes.
Iemand noemt hier een 1N4007. Er zat oorspronkelijk bij mij een 1N4003 in en die heb ik vervangen met een 1N4004 (die kan 400 Volt aan of zo).
Een hoger nummer kan ook nog. Geen probleem. Zoveel volt komt er sowieso door.
Je moet alleen uitkijken, dat wanneer je dat dekseltje lostrekt van de stekker de boel niet op de grond valt (zoals bij mij), want dan zie je niet meer welke kant de diode op ging; kun je zien aan het zilvergrijze randje. Dan is er nog geen man overboord, want dan draai je de polen even om in de stekker (want hij kan maar op één manier in de doos) en dan probeer je het zo.

MVG
Chris

Re: Elektrische ramen weigeren. Diode probleem

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 aug 2018, 05:36
door Marcelenshirley
Dank voor de info Orion.
Groetjes Marcel