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W201Club.nl • Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg : Techniek W201
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Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 jul 2018, 15:54
door AutonomY
Beste forumleden,

Dit is vreemd,... twee garages weten niet wat het kan zijn.
Na 50 (2x25)KM gereden te hebben zakt het rempedaal weg.
Beetje pompen dan is het weer goed maar blijft een beetje wegzakken.
Dat is me twee keer overkomen toevallig met de zelfde rit en dat ik nagenoeg thuis kwam.
Als ik de volgende dag weer instap is het probleem niet meer waarneembaar.
De auto remt geweldig goed!
Dit inconsequente gedrag maakt het vreemd.
Als de hoofd rem cilinder defect was moet het probleem blijven (ding is kapot of niet).
Er lekt geen olie bij de wielen of waar dan ook.
Ik, en, twee professionals snappen het niet.

Weten jullie wat dit inconsequent gedrag kan veroorzaken?

Groet,
Evert

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 jul 2018, 19:17
door MBSLC
Heb het ook wel eens gehad, bij warm weer. Maar ging vanzelf over. Ik snap dat je niets aan deze reactie hebt, en pieker me suf wat er toen gedaan is, maar volgens mij niets.
Of de motor was heel warm, of de buitentemperatuur. Er zat geen lucht in de leiding, dat weet ik nog wel.

Sorry dat ik je niet verder kan helpen !
ik hoop dat andere techneuten het antwoord hebben.

Succes,
Richard.

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2018, 10:19
door AutonomY

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 jul 2018, 10:21
door AutonomY

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 jul 2018, 16:38
door FerryB
Inderdaad bij warm weer :o want ik heb het net ook weer eens gehad. ;)

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2018, 13:05
door AutonomY

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2018, 13:57
door Bram Jansen

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2018, 14:15
door MBSLC
Zou er inderdaad wel achteraan gaan. Geen grappen met de remmerij !

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2018, 17:34
door FerryB
Ik ben naar de dealer geweest en die hebben niets kunnen vinden.en het inzakken is ook maar een cm of 2.

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2018, 18:32
door MBSLC
Net genoeg voor een hartverzakking ! :o

Het had ook iets met drukopbouw te maken, maar dat zal wel duidelijk zijn.

Geen risico's nemen voor 100 E en een beetje remvloeistof !

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2018, 19:37
door HenkO
Om tot een juiste diagnose te komen zul je zaken moeten uitsluiten:
1. Is er uitwendige lekkage (daalt het remvloeistofniveau abnormaal)?
2. Hoe oud is de remolie? Ouder dan 2 jaar is het advies verversen, dit pas doen als de oorzaak van het defect is vastgesteld.
3. Test de hoofdremcilinder, trap het pedaal hard in en hoe dit vast. Zakt het pedaal onder je voet weg duid dit op in- of uitwendige lekkage. Het kan ook zijn dat de remslangen slecht zijn, je kunt dit zien door ze allen te controleren op abnormaal uitzetten (puistvorming).
4. Zoals RD500SEC heeft aangegeven controleer het vacuum. Dit uitvoeren zoals voorgesteld. Het vreemde aan de klacht is namelijk dat deze niet altijd plaatsvindt.

Hopelijk kom je door het uitsluiten van oorzaken snel achter het defect. Succes.

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jul 2018, 20:51
door Gombal
Heb dit ook gehad bij mijn vorige W124. Hoofdremcilinder vervangen en probleem was weg. Hij remde nog wel maar idd pas vanaf halverwege het pedaal. En ook gewoon willekeurig.
Je hoofdremcilinder heeft een vaste en zwevende zuiger, 1 van die 2 is dan niet helemaal fris meer. Heb toen mijn oude hoofdremcilinder helemaal gedemonteerd en er was zo op zicht niets aan te zien.
Heb het met een nieuwe (aftermarket) daarna nooit meer gehad.
Als dit je originele nog is vergeet dan niet dat hij al 34 jaar oud is. Het is een precisie instrument dus heeft niet veel slijtage nodig om te falen.
Je zal ook niet je volledige remcapaciteit hebben als het pedaal pas halverwege pakt, waarschijnlijk alleen nog voorremmen, anders had je het zeker wel gemerkt met alleen achteremmen.
Zou voor dat geld geen risico nemen, een euro of 100 is minder als een opgefrommelde W201 of als je zelf (of een ander) ook wat mankeert en er aan overhoudt.

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 30 jul 2018, 08:49
door FerryB
Ik bezuinig nooit op mijn auto's en breng ze altijd als ik iets heb of niet vertrouw naar de dealer. En die zegt er is niets aan de hand. En ik heb nog eens goed opgelet :shock: en het wegzakken is niet meer dan een halve cm. Ook al mijn rekeningen nagelopen. Door de jaren heen is alles al eens vervangen. De remolie zelfs afgelopen jaar. ;)

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 aug 2018, 12:02
door AutonomY
Wat leuk om te zien hoe dit topic geregenereerd is :-)
Goede opmerkingen allemaal! Blij dat remmen zo serieus genomen worden inderdaad :-)
Immers, een Sterrijder is toch een verantwoordelijk rijder,...
Ik kan niet zelf aan de auto werken. Maar ik ga nu wel degelijk voor remolie en hoofdremcilinder.
Gewoon vervangen en maar zien of het succes heeft. Het is gokken met kennis op de achtergrond en ik denk nu dat het zo de problemen zal verhelpen met meer dan 95% kans. En inderdaad, de hoofdremcilinder is nog origineel dus oud,... niet 34 maar 25 jaar ;)
Bedankt voor het meedenken allemaal en ik laat het weten,...
Groet,
Evert

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 aug 2018, 18:29
door MBSLC
Laat het weten inderdaad svp ! Geen topic zo belangrijk als de remmerij, lijkt me. Willen we onze auto's , maar ook onszelf, kreukelvrij houden ;)

Groet,
Richard.

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 06 aug 2018, 06:48
door Buitenspiegel
1: Wanneer is voor het laatst je remvloeistof ververst?

2: Weet je dat je iedere 2 jaar de remvloeistof dient te verversen?

Remvloeistof is hygroscopisch, wat wil zeggen, het trekt vocht aan. Bij warm weer en veel remmen gaat de remvloeistof koken, komen er luchtbellen in het remsysteem en verdwijnt de remdruk. Wanneer het remsysteem weer is afgekoeld is de remdruk weer terug.

3: Ga naar een goede garage, laat je remvloeistof meten en indien nodig vervangen kost ongeveer € 25,— Dus voor de kosten hoef je het niet te laten.

4: Voor jou en de veiligheid van de andere verkeersdeelnemers is het zaak dat je remmen op orde zijn. Je vergeeft het je zelf nooit meer als je iemand aanrijd met ernstig letsel of de dood tot gevolg.

Zoals eerder aangegeven, de hoofdremsylinder zou ook stuk kunnen zijn. Maar begin bij het meten van de remvloeistof, is die oké, dan is het de hoofdremcilinder.

Succes,..

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 aug 2018, 08:27
door Buitenspiegel
Hoe is het nou met die remmen, we vernemen niets meer?

Re: Rempedaal zakt af en toe weg

BerichtGeplaatst: 08 sep 2018, 15:43
door AutonomY