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Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2017, 22:12
door harmg
Hallo,

Af en toe heeft mijn MB moeite met accelereren. Het lijkt er op alsof het gas enkele keren per seconde los gelaten wordt, hoewel ik natuurlijk het pedaal op een constante positie houd. Om het extra lastig te maken komt dit niet altijd voor, soms 2 weken niet, dan weer weken bijna iedere dag.
Ook komt dit bij lage snelheden voor. Als ik dan maar rustig genoeg optrek kan ik gewoon 130 halen, dus de motor kan wel gewoon het vermogen leveren.
Verder kan ik niet een bepaald patroon herkennen met dit en bijvoorbeeld de buitentemperatuur of de temperatuur van de motor.

Een aantal dingen die ik recent vervangen heb en dus niet de oorzaak kunnen zijn:
- bougies
- luchtfilter
- benzinefilter
- luchtmassameter (alleen potmeter via Orion)

Heeft iemand een idee wat het kan zijn? Of bepaalde punten uitsluiten?

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2017, 22:29
door Bromgabber
Hoezo zouden nieuw gemonteerde onderdelen niet het probleem kunnen zijn?
Verkeerde type, fabricage fout, verkeerd gemonteerd of gewoon vanaf fabriek al defect.
Maak de bougiekabels eens nat als hij dan stottert/hapert zou ik die ook even vervangen ;)

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 aug 2017, 12:33
door Prometheus
idd nimmer aannames doen !
Klinkt toch als overslaan van verbrandingsslagen hetzij door defect in kabels / rotor / bougies of
een (te) arm mengsel dat veroorzaakt kan worden door een te 'krappe' brandstofafstelling of valse lucht.
Check bv onder de spinnekop de rubber manchet(ten) eens op scheurtjes. Als je stevig accelereert wordt er door zo'n scheurtje uiteraard meer lucht aangezogen en dat kan net genoeg zijn om het brandstofmengsel te 'arm' te maken met overslaan als gevolg.

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 nov 2017, 13:52
door harmg
Hallo

In augustus heb ik de de bougiekabels en bobine vervangen, en dit leek het stotteren op te lossen. Helaas heb ik sinds 2 weken weer af en toe last dat de motor stottert bij accelereren. Zojuist heb ik het rubber onder de spinnenkop bekeken, volgens mijn ziet dit er goed uit. Ik heb er een foto van gemaakt, wat vinden jullie?

Nu kan ik nog de rotor vervangen. Of is het verstandig om eerst nog iets anders te controleren?

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rubber.JPG
rubber onder spinnenkop
rubber.JPG (226.28 KiB) 1901 keer bekeken

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2017, 08:21
door Bram Jansen
Dat rubber is na 26 jaar steenhard en vertoont scheurtjes en veel ellende. Ik heb hem bij de dealer gehaald en ga hem ook plaatsen. (koude start is niet optimaal)
Gewoon vernieuwen, het kost bij de dealer de wereld niet.

Rotor en rotor kap moeten mooi heel zijn, dus nooit vernieuwd? Vernieuwen! en denk eraan, Bosch!! Geen Beru :naughty:

Vernieuwen van 26 jaar oude onderdelen is uitsluiten van problemen.

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2017, 09:53
door Vinnievw
Waarom geen Beru? Levert MB origineel ook en werkt doorgaans feilloos.

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2017, 10:10
door Bram Jansen
Geen Beru omdat de algemene ervaringen zijn dat Bosch beter is. Ook die van mij overigens. Lees alle forums over startproblemen er maar op na.

Ik had een Bosch rotor en rotorkap, nooit startproblemen, ook een garage wist het beter en plaatste Beru. Sindsdien alleen maar problemen met starten. Bij mij is 1+1=2

Maar ieder gewoon zijn ding natuurlijk, als iemand Beru wil nemen neemt hij Beru. :lol:

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2017, 16:46
door Olieboot
soms de hele tijd en soms helemaal niet klinkt mij meer als iets electrisch
ik zou eens kijken naar aansluitingen op bv de brandstofpomp

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 nov 2017, 18:30
door Rojo124
Je hebt alles van de ontsteking vervangen op de verdeelkap na !!!....zou je deze dan niet als eerste nakijken.
dat stotteren bij optrekken is bijna altijd de verdeelkap...die aangeslagen of versleten is.

En wat betreft Bosch of Beru.....bij mijn 6cyl was de Bosch kap al na 1 jaar versleten/kapot...en met die Beru kappen doe ik zo maar 3 jaar...en ze werken allebij hetzelfde (gewoon goed).

gr Ron

Re: Haperen bij accelereren

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 dec 2017, 23:00
door harmg
De rotor en verderlerkap heb ik ondertussen vervangen. Dit heeft geen verbetering opgeleverd. De volgende stap is om de rubber manchet te vervangen.

Iemand nog andere suggesties hoe ik dit aan kan pakken? Kan ik bijvoorbeeld meten wat defect is?