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W201Club.nl • 190E 86' 2.0 start heel slecht. : Techniek W201
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190E 86' 2.0 start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 jan 2017, 12:57
door Sjotefle
Hallo mede-forummers,
Na een tijdje gespeurd te hebben op internet kwam ik dit geweldige forum tegen. Hier hoop ik dan ook de oplossing te vinden voor het probleem. De auto wil namelijk ontzettend slecht starten, soms duurt het al met al ruim 10 minuten. Aangezien wij zelf niet echte sleutelaars zijn, weet iemand een automonteur in Friesland die gespecialiseerd is in deze auto's? De auto is namelijk eerder naar een garage geweest, die monteur heeft alleen maar aan de stelschroef van de benzine gezeten, en dacht dat daar het probleem mee verholpen zou zijn. Kan iemand ons helpen?

Re: Auto start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 jan 2017, 20:36
door Kukie
Carburateur of inspuiting?
Gewone ontsteking : controleer contactpuntafstand en ontstekingstijdstip. Motormanagementsysteem : controleer bougies op uiterlijk of beter : met een bougietester.
Controleer bougiekabels, rotor en verdelerkap op breuk en scheurtjes.
Controleer benzinepomp ( kun je meestal wel horen), en benzineleidingen. Carburateur : kijk of de vlotternaald nog gangbaar is.
Als de motor is verzopen, doorstarten met ingetrapt gaspedaal ( carburateur). Inspuit :heel lang wachten of bougies wisselen, afstand punten bougies 0,8mm. Gaspedaal niet aanraken met starten.
Controleer ook de accumulator , is die lek, kan starten lang duren. Zit links achter onder de auto met benzinepomp en filter op een rekje. Kun je zo bij na verwijdering kunststof kap.
IK zou eens beginnen met die accumulator.

Grtz,
Kukie

Re: Auto start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 jan 2017, 21:51
door Bromgabber
Het is wel raadzaam om hier of aan de monteur te vertellen:
- Wanneer is het ontstaan of is het steeds slechter geworden?
- Zowel met warm als koude motor?
- Wat is er al vervangen ivm het probleem?
- Gaat met starten wel goed rond?

Ohja hij start wel maar "slaat slecht aan" ;)

Re: Auto start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 jan 2017, 22:34
door Sjotefle
[quote="Bromgabber"][/quote]

Om wat meer duidelijkheid te verschaffen, het is steeds slechter geworden. Met een koude motor, als die warm is gaat het een stuk soepeler. Vorig jaar zijn er allemaal nieuwe filters ingekomen, en is er nieuwe olie ingekomen.

Re: Auto start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 jan 2017, 07:21
door JantjeV8
Da's nie zo mooi, maar wat voor auto heb je??
Wat kun je wel zelf? Of heb je echt een adres nodig waar je terecht kan?

Re: Auto start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 jan 2017, 09:59
door Sjotefle
Het is een Mercedes 190E 2.0 uit 1986. (Sorry als ik niet zo goed ben met uitleggen :)) Ik moet er nog wel bij vertellen dat het ABS lampje ook continu brandt, hier hebben we al eerder last van gehad, maar meestal ging die dan tijdens het rijden wel weer uit. Ook hebben we sinds kort euro 98 getankt ipv 95, dit hadden we als advies gekregen. En om te proberen het nog wat gedetailleerder uit te leggen...In eerste instantie slaat die vrij snel aan(dit wil zeggen binnen pak m beet 2 seconden), maar binnen 1 seconde valt die ook weer uit, daarna krijgt die enorme moeite om weer aan te slaan. Als de motor dan ook eenmaal weer draait, moet je vooralsnog weer wachten met weg rijden, want wil je dat meteen doen zonder dat die iets warmer is geworden, valt die weer gelijk uit. Ook mag er geen gas bijgegeven worden, want ook dan valt die gelijk weer uit. Is het zo misschien wat duidelijker? :) Ik ben beter met praten, dan dingen op te schrijven.

Re: Auto start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 jan 2017, 11:36
door Prometheus
In is Bijlsma in Surhuisterveen een goede

Re: 190E 86' 2.0 start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 jan 2017, 17:47
door JantjeV8
Dit zijn typisch symptomen die naar het brandstofrelais, de brandstofpomp, de accumulator en het overspanningsrelais wijzen. Wel eerst even kijken of er een fatsoenlijke vonk is, maar dan snel die andere zaken stap voor stap uitsluiten.

Re: 190E 86' 2.0 start heel slecht.

BerichtGeplaatst: 19 jan 2017, 18:00
door Jelmer
ABS lampje dat blijft branden kan overspanningsrelais zijn. In Nijega zit www.autobedrijfhaarsma.nl denk dat die je wel goed kan helpen