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E10 vraag

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E10 vraag

Berichtdoor bayapalma » 26 jul 2022, 20:34

Hallo,
Graag zou ik vernemen hoe de eigenaren binnen dit forum van een W201 omgaan met E10 en of iedereen trouw E5 blijft tanken. Ik heb tevens gezien dat Wynns iets schijnt te hebben waardoor je wel E10 kunt tanken. Heeft iemand daar ervaring mee?
Ik merk namelijk dat het aantal pompen dat E5 levert aan het afnemen is, ondanks het feit dat er nog een respectabel percentage auto's rondrijdt ouder dan 10 jaar.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor De Boer » 26 jul 2022, 21:41

In de praktijk is het bewezen dat eigenaren die E10 tanken op langere termijn (vaak binnen korte tijd al) geduvel krijgen met hun motor.
Rubbers gaan oplossen, carburateur krijgt problemen omdat het materiaal wegvreet, coating in de tank vreet op door ethanol en ga zo maar door. Ook is E10 maximaal 8 weken houdbaar en daarna verandert de samenstelling van benzine/ethanol dus onregelmatige loop van de motor.

Waarom zul je E10 gaan tanken en een paardenmiddel van Wynss toevoegen als er gewoon Euro98 leverbaar waar je motor perfect op loopt? Het wiel opnieuw uitvinden hoeft niet hoor.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 27 jul 2022, 08:40

@de boer: heb je dat uit ervaring of is dat ergens te lezen uit onderzoek ofzo. Hwt zou mooi zijn, als het ergens officieel verklaard stond. Wat ik uit eigen ervaring weet, is dat de laatst
10 (?) Jaar sowieso de benzine minder houdbaar is geworden want na de winterstop moest ik de laatste jaren m'n stationair sproeiers altijd vervangen van m'n motor. Vernieuwen dus. Kreeg ze niet meer doorgeblazen.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 27 jul 2022, 09:41

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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor De Boer » 27 jul 2022, 10:03

Over de ervaringen met het rijden met E10 is genoeg over te vinden op het internet. Met m'n eigen 300E die ik bijna 12 jaar heb tankte ik toen ik hem net had nog weleens Euro95. De motor liep er nooit lekker op, leverde voor m'n gevoel minder vermogen en ik haalde, bewezen, minder kilometers uit de tank. De laatste 10 jaar geen meter meer op Euro95 gereden.

De E10 is aan de pomp per liter iets goedkoper dan Euro98 maar met de problemen en de ergenis die je gaat krijgen met E10 ben je met die troep duurder uit dan Euro98

De Ethanol killer van Wynns lijkt leuk maar waarom een toevoeging als je gewoon met Euro98 kan rijden?
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor bayapalma » 27 jul 2022, 13:12

Dank voor al jullie reacties, maar ik stel mijn vraag ook met een ander doel.
Wat ik namelijk constateer is, dat niet alleen de prijzen tussen E5 en E10 steeds verder uit elkaar lopen (meer dan 20 cent is geen uitzondering meer), maar dat ook lang niet alle tankstations nog E5 leveren.
Vandaar dus die toevoeging over WYNNS.
Wat ik ik me ook niet helemaal kan voorstellen is dat nieuwere auto's geen last zouden hebben van die bio-ethanol. Zou er dan ineens een ander soort rubber zijn uitgevonden? MVG
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 27 jul 2022, 13:25

Ja, andere kunststoffen. Anders zouden veel moderne auto's ook veel last hebben.
Daarnaast: moderne auto's hebben ook storingen.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor De Boer » 27 jul 2022, 14:39

Bij de hedendaagse auto's zijn materialen gebruikt met een andere samenstelling.
De brandstoftank is vaak al van kunststof, bij onze wagens nog van staal. Het gezegde van Rubber is Rubber is te kortzichtig, niet elke rubberen afdichting kan overal voor gebruikt worden. De verkeerde rubberringen op de verkeerde plek en het probleem dient zich aan.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor bayapalma » 27 jul 2022, 15:30

Anyhow. Ook minder aanbod.

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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor Guppie » 28 jul 2022, 19:56

Inmiddels al 50K kilometer en 7 jaar ervaring met e10 in de W201 2.0E KAT

Al even lang geen gezeur met het brandstofsysteem: gewoon tanken dus!
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor De Boer » 28 jul 2022, 20:34

Er zijn maar weinig mensen die dat kunnen zonder noemenswaardige problemen.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor De Boer » 30 jul 2022, 08:35

De Euro95 was nooit echt een probleem op de KE-jetronic met geregelde 3-weg katalysator alleen liep de motor niet lekker, leverde ietsiepietsie vermogen in en werd iets ruwer. Na het invoeren van de bioethanol begon voor veel mensen de problemen.
Het kijken naar alleen de prijs aan de pomp is in dit geval te kortzichtig, bij reparatie valt het voordeel gauw weg.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor bayapalma » 30 jul 2022, 17:34

Bedankt voor alle reacties.
Ik was gewoon benieuwd hoe mensen ermee omgaan wen heb wat gehoord.
Zelf ben ik nooit van plan geweest om ondanks alles E10 te gaan rijden, want dat de boel de geest geeft op termijn is zeker.
Probleem vind ik persoonlijk dat pompen niet allemaal meer E5 verkopen.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor De Boer » 30 jul 2022, 17:46

Dat word dan doorrijden naar een pomp die het wel verkoopt.
Shell verkoopt V-power, BP verkoopt Excelente nog wat, Esso heeft ook zoiets als Euro98 en deze brandstoffen bevatten geen Ethanol
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 30 jul 2022, 19:33

Dit is ook een oplossing. Kun je zeg 10x bij het tanken gebruiken.
Dus niet duur dan.
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 31 jul 2022, 13:34

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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor Guppie » 13 aug 2022, 12:20

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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 13 aug 2022, 15:30

Da's inderdaad vreemd. De info van de fabrikant zelf is denk ik het beste. Alhoewel .....wc eend adviseert wc eend :D
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor Knuffelbeer » 13 aug 2022, 17:20

Voor die paar cent wil ik de gok niet nemen.
Als je veel kilometers rijd snap ik de overweging overigens wel.
altijd feest als je met een Benz bent weg geweest
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Re: E10 vraag

Berichtdoor bayapalma » 04 sep 2023, 10:38

Nu, een jaar verder, en bij sommige pompen het verschil al haast 30 cent per liter toch weer een berichtje over die E10.
Wat ik namelijk vond was, dat de Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs, het overkoepelend orgaan dus voor alle old-timer clubs in Engeland, een endorsement afgaf voor de een additief dat het schadelijke effect van E10 aan oude wagens teniet zou doen. BEWEZEN staat er ergens bij.

https://www.motorworks.co.uk/ethomix-et ... 555-1.html

Nou is dit niet het goedkoopste spul, maar zelfs dan nog win je er veel op. Een middel als Putin kost zelfs maar 6 euro per fles.
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