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fuseekogels

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 14 apr 2015, 12:20

Heren Technici,

Zijn de fuseekogels van de W201 nu zo slecht, is het echt een W201 kwaal ? Ik lees er veel over op het forum, en vraag me af of het echt W201 of misschien wel MB gerelateerd is.

Bij 103.000 km heb ik ze beiden laten vervangen in 2011, in 2013 bij 128.000 alleen de linker, en nu april 2015 140.000 km hoor ik weer een berg gekraak, als ik naar rechts stuur. Hoop dat het een versleten rubber is of zo, maar die mazzel zal ik wel niet hebben.

Ik hoor eigenlijk nooit iemand over fuseekogels, alleen op dit forum kom ik het steeds weer tegen.

Is het handig om meteen wat anders preventief te vervangen, omdat hij in de buurt is, als de monteur de kogels gaat vervangen ?

Bedankt alvast !
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Stefanieexx » 14 apr 2015, 13:02

Die van mij hebben ze gister laten vervangen. Ik heb 92000 km op de teller staan. Denk inderdaad dat het een kwaal is. Lees bijvoorbeeld ook veel over lekke koppakking. Deze is bij mij ook vervangen. Misschien wel verstandig om ze in de gaten te houden.
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor HansMercedes » 14 apr 2015, 17:57

Ik heb mijn auto n u ruim 14 jaar en nog maar 1 keer die kogels vervangen . Volgens mij zit er een merkteken op die overeen moet komen grt hans
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 14 apr 2015, 18:09

OK Hans, bedankt voor de tip, zal de monteur er op attenderen. Zal-ie wel weer beginnen te lachen : "jij, met dat forum van je "..." :mrgreen:

Als ik tegenwoordig ergens mee kom, is het gelijk : " enne..., wat zeggen je forumvriendjes ? " hahaha.

Het is al jarenlang een gabbertje van me , dus we moeten er beiden altijd wel om lachen :laugh:
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 14 apr 2015, 19:41

Ik ga er van uit dat hij originele gebruikt, hij weet dat ik daar van hou, en hij weet dat ik op onderhoud niet verkeerd wens te bezuinigen.
Maar je verhaal is zeer bruikbaar zaterdag, als ik e.e.a. met hem ga bespreken.

Maar misschien is het nu alleen een hoesje of zo, dat kraakt. Ik zie nogal eens beren op de weg.... :oops:

Ik hou jullie op de hoogte.

Bij maximaal insturen naar links, hoor ik ook een krak, maar dat doe ik eigenlijk nooit, alleen als ik zeer strak ingeparkeerd ben door een van de buren ( fileparkeren voor de flat ) :twisted:
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Nico190E » 14 apr 2015, 19:53

Zelf hoor ik ook af en toe iets klapperen aan de bijrijder kant.
Zover ik weet is er nooit iets vervangen de laatste 20 jaar en 238.000km.

Of het vervangen is voor die 125.000km toen ik hem kocht weet ik niet.
Wat ze wel vervangen hebben is de distributie ketting, maar daar zit geen speling op.

Het kan dat een van de vorige eigenaren veel stoepen mee heeft geraakt.
Ook bij volledig uitsturen naar links of rechts hoor je de pomp van de stuurbekrachtiger harder werken.
Daardoor zouden die stuurkogels harder dan normaal kunnen slijten.
Al meer dan 23 jaar plezier aan dit oudje, dus genieten.
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Rene-Bakker » 14 apr 2015, 20:09

pas twee kogels vervangen. inderdaad een merkteken en een sleuf onder de hoes.
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Fietsensloper » 15 apr 2015, 09:40

Hmm... ik heb met een paar imitatie kogels gewoon 120000KM gereden hoor. Toen zat er wel een beetje speling op maar nog net geen apk afkeur. Ik zou alleen niet meer weten wat voor merk dit geweest is :?:
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Chris190E86 » 15 apr 2015, 11:08

Bij mijn auto (zoals bij velen bekend) begaf mijn fuseekogel het bij +/- 143000 km.
Van grote invloed op de kortere levensduur van de fuseekogels is ook:
-brede en grotere velgen
-kleinere ET maat
-verlagen van de auto
Mijn auto voldoet aan alle 3 de punten :(

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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor WJ15129 » 17 apr 2015, 14:42

Het snelle slijten bij de W201, en de W124, komt ook door de constructie van de voorwielophanging. De schokdemper zit aan de draagarm bevestigd via de fuseekogel, terwijl de veer rechtstreeks op de draagarm steunt, en dat houdt in dat bij het in- en uitveren de kogel krachten opvangt in verticale richting. Bij het snel uitveren wordt er aan de kogel getrokken in de richting waarin hij er is ingeperst. En dat is gewoon de zwakste schakel bij zo'n kogel. Hij spring er uit als je een verkeersdrempel afrijdt, het wiel zakt sneller als de carrosserie, en niet als je erop gaat.
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Chris190E86 » 17 apr 2015, 15:42

Bij mijn auto is hij eruit geschoten met het oprijden van een lage flauwe drempel.
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Kennytuning » 17 apr 2015, 16:53

Dan moet er toch al enorm veel speling op gezeten hebben?
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Palma » 22 apr 2015, 11:56

Gebruik de juiste fuseekogels, liefst originele maar van het merk Lemforder gaat het ook prima.
En ja let heel goed op het merkteken, deze moet naar het motorgedeelte wijzen!
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En zo ziet mijn voorzijde er nu uit (W124)
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Over de wiel/velgmaat is al gepost, alles heeft invloed.
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 11 mei 2015, 17:37

Vandaag rechterfusee kogel laten vervangen : was achteraf misschien niet geheel nodig, hij kraakt nog steeds, maar is een verwrongen rubber geluid : mijn monteur denkt dat het waarschijnlijk het rubber is, bovenop de veer. Vet maken kan niet, omdat je er niet bij kunt.

In ieder geval is de kogel dan maar preventief vervangen : baat het niet, dan schaadt het niet, en de foto's van Chris werd ik ook al niet vrolijk van.

De remmen piepen niet meer, maar er hoefden geen nieuwe blokken in, dus dat scheelt dan weer. Elk nadeel heb z'n voordeel. Morgen lekker naar La Roche in Belgie, met een goed gevoel, en een nieuwe fles Meguiars Ultimate Liquid Wax incl pad en microvezeldoek( 45 E ! :oops: ), maar daar doe je ook weer jaren mee.

Als het weer droog blijft, lekker elke dag een uurtje poetsen op de camping met een Jupiler erbij, zo hou je er plezier in ;) .

Foto's volgen in het Vakantiefoto topic !

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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Silverstar » 17 mei 2015, 21:44

Ik wil toch even reageren!

De kogel kan nooit uit de fusee komen,
Ik verwacht dat bij de auto van Chris190E86 een verkeerde fusee is geplaatst of mee is gerommeld.

Zie 1e foto van Rene-Bakker
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor GekkeHenkie » 17 mei 2015, 22:38

Het ligt eraan hoe je het leest. Maar de kogel is niet uit het fusee. Zo ik kan zien op de foto's. Maar de kogel is uit elkaar. Dus de zitting van het kogelgewricht zit nog in het fusee
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor Chris190E86 » 18 mei 2015, 00:48

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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 23 mei 2015, 19:07

Fuseekogel rechts vervangen ( origineel ), en gehele ophanging/stuurinrichting gecontroleerd, vandaag de rekening = 150 E. ( 2 uur werk ). Mooie prijs, toch ? Had veel erger verwacht... ;)
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor HansMercedes » 23 mei 2015, 22:47

Dat is geen slechte prijs Richard en jij kan weer veilig rijden grt Hans
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Re: fuseekogels

Berichtdoor MBSLC » 24 mei 2015, 06:16

Zo is het, en als het niet dringend noodzakelijk is geweest, dan is het maar preventief gebeurd :mrgreen:
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