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Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 22 mei 2014, 21:21

Dag Forumers,

Ik gooi nog maar eens wat in de groep.

Vandaag eens stukje snelweg gereden met de W201.
Wat mij al enge tijd opvalt met deze wagen is de windgevoeligheid van de auto.
Stevige wind en bij 100 a 110km p/u 3000toeren, als een dweil op de weg.

Herkennen jullie dit?

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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor De Boer » 22 mei 2014, 21:28

Pak je stuurdemper er maar even af en als je die zonder kracht te zetten uit elkaar kan trekken is hij of door ouderdom of door veel gebruik versleten dus moet er een nieuwe op. :ohmy:
Ik hoor er meer over en ikzelf had een "nieuwe auto" met sturen toen ik hem vervangen had. :dance:
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor EmielW201 » 22 mei 2014, 21:29

Ja, dit herken ik. Ten eerste zorgen dat de bandenspanning in orde is.
Soms helpt het vervangen van de stuurdemper als deze door ouderdom niet meer functioneert.
Maar in de meeste gevallen ligt het aan versleten schokdempers. Wil nog meer stabiliteit dan helpt verlagen (dus verlagingsveren) ook behoorlijk.
Maar je zou ook de vrije slag van het stuur kunnen controleren (en indien nodig afstellen). Dit kan ook al het nodige bijdragen.
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 22 mei 2014, 21:33

Fijn die snelle reacties.

Goed te horen dat er meer klachten over zijn.
Misschien een domme vraag, de stuurdemper is dat het zelfde als de stuurstangdemper. :oops: nuance verschilletje kan veel uitmaken.
Ik had de banden op de goeie spanning gebracht want waren veel te zacht. Met zachte banden had ik er niet zo'n last van.

Ik ga om de beginnen de stuurdemper dan maar eens nakijken.

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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor EmielW201 » 22 mei 2014, 21:45

De stuurdemper zit inderdaad aan de stuurstang. Er staat geen spanning op dus je kunt deze makkelijk vervangen.
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 22 mei 2014, 21:47

Dank voor je mooie plaatje Emiel, dan weet ik tenminste waar ik naar moet kijken.

Ik vroeg dat over die stuurstangdemper omdat die is vernieuwd voor ik de auto kocht.
Het is dus niet hetzelfde begrijp ik.

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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor De Boer » 22 mei 2014, 21:52

Onder je auto kijken/kruipen is gratis (of betaal je entree :laugh: ) ik neem aan als hij vernieuwd is dat er dan nog een stickertje opzit.
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor EmielW201 » 22 mei 2014, 21:52

Je zou ook eens de hulpstuurhuis rubbers kunnen checken. Als die versleten zijn krijg je ook speling waardoor de auto wat zoekerig wordt bij bepaalde snelheden.

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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Bassje » 22 mei 2014, 22:00

Dat klopt. Bij mij is dat setje ook vervangen en dat maakt nou écht een wereld van verschil.
Aanradertje dus ;).
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 22 mei 2014, 22:07

Dat is mooi en dat zijn ook de kosten niet.

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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor FerryB » 23 mei 2014, 09:27

Ik herken dit ook, een paar jaren geleden, na het vervangen van de stuurdemper en nieuwe sckokbrkers achter, was het over. :D
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Kever » 23 mei 2014, 10:11

Vraagjes:

1. Is het vervangen van stuurdemper en/of hulpstuurhuis veel werk?

2. Onlangs heb ik n.a.v. berichten op dit forum mijn MB-kenner ernaar gevraagd: die zei dat hij het gewoon bij de APK-keuring checkt en dat het anders niet nodig is om e.e.a. te vervangen. Klopt dat?
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor VmaX » 23 mei 2014, 11:05

1. Niet veel werk maar het is wel makkelijker op een brug, en al helemaal voor het hulpstuurhuis.
2. Volgens mij worden hulpstuurhuis en demper alleen afgekeurd (als er überhaupt al naar gekeken word) als ze er van ellende onderuit vallen. terwijl vervanging bij zelfs een kleine speling al enorm voordelig is voor je stuureigenschappen.

Je kunt er wel bijna vanuit gaan dat bij oudere auto's zoals die van ons vervanging sowieso nodig is, tenzij nog recent vervangen.
Mijn stuurdemper (Bilstein) is 50.000 km geleden vervangen en ik kan voelen dat die nu alweer moet.
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Kever » 23 mei 2014, 11:42

Bedankt voor de info.
Wat kosten beide onderdelen ongeveer?
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Bassje » 23 mei 2014, 12:36

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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Kever » 23 mei 2014, 12:44

Dankjewel, Bas, ben niet zo handig op dat soort sites :oops: , maar het goede nieuws is: geen geld! :D
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 23 mei 2014, 13:18

Kijk dat is nou eens handig. :dance:

Ik heb de spullen zojuist besteld bij taxiteille
Wanneer ik ze eronder ga zetten is nog even de vraag.

Eerst nog even naar Nederland, ook nog op zoek naar een W124 300TD

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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Kever » 23 mei 2014, 13:59

23 en 15 euro: daar kun je niet voor tobben. ik heb het ook net op het lijstje gezet voor de volgende beurt met APK binnenkort.
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor wwwW123 » 26 mei 2014, 15:58

en als na deze klus je van mening bent dat je wegligging nog niet echt lekker is, dan zou ik inderdaad eens goed mijn schokdempers testen. wat ook vaakt helpt is een echte bilstein verlagingsset :D . ik mail je wel even met wat info..
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Re: Windgevoeligheid MB201

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 26 mei 2014, 16:37

We gaan eerst zien wat de vervanging oplevert.
Het zal met leeftijd te maken hebben :mrgreen: maar ik kom nu al nauwelijks de auto uit. Verlagen is dus echt geen optie want het lijkt of dat reeds is gebeurt. Hiermee is je mail ook beantwoord en dank voor je aanbod.

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